Is Sep 30th the hard cut-off for submitting documents for pay? Can I get paid for Sep FY 22 CCC if it is submitted on 1st Oct 23?

2022-09-30T09:40:52-04:00

I just moved from Active Duty to the Reserves here in Germany and am still a little new to some of the specifics.
I recently completed Phase 1 of my CCC through EBDL. The course ended on the 16th of September and I was told I would need to get my DA1380 in before the 30th of September (the last day of the fiscal year) to get paid. I submitted everything, but unfortunately it is now the 30th and I just found out that some of my paperwork (the EBDL Memo) is missing signatures and no one will be able to sign before the end of today.

My question is, is September 30th the hard cut-off for submitting documents for pay? Can I get paid for September (FY 2022) CCC if it is submitted on 1st October (FY2023)?

Thank you for all your help!

Response by COL Randall C. made Sep 30 at 2022 9:49 AM

2022-09-30T09:49:57-04:00

1LT Private RallyPoint Member, you're asking a local policy question vs a hard and fast rule by regulation/law, however those policies will cause you no end of trouble.

To your specific question - No, there is no hard cut-off for the documents by regulation/law, but there may be one by policy. Your best bet is to talk to the full-time AGR staff at your unit ASAP and explain the situation - you have the paperwork, it's all correct but is just lacking a signature.

In some cases, the commander may sign it or have signature authority delegated to his full-timers (many commanders do). Additionally, the "hard cut-off" date for you might not be the cut-off date for the unit (they will usually back it up a few days in order to get the stuff done they need to do before sending it to higher).

Again, bottom line - talk to your unit full-timers ASAP.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2022 9:51 AM

2022-09-30T09:51:51-04:00

You'll still get paid. You did the travel, you have to be reimbursed. It's just a huge pain because the money is allocated by FY. So someone will probably have to go back in and allocate money to last year's funds, which causes extra work, usually a memo by someone important, or other hurdles to jump through.

Learning point for you, the Army tries to stop all spending and obligation funds at the end of the FY and close out any vouchers, so they can close out the fiscal year. Most commands will turn off GPC cards mid September and stop any unnecessary purchases as well. Any travel that goes through the end of the FY and in to the next FY is a whole special level of hell in Dantes Inferno.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2022 10:43 AM

2022-09-30T10:43:46-04:00

My paperwork got lost last year and they reprocessed it for points only the next FY. Though I've never done EBDL but the Reserve doesn't make things easy.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2022 10:54 AM

2022-09-30T10:54:28-04:00

I'll add, you'll probably start to learn to avoid scheduling anything in September.

It's why I'm dragging my feet for the Flu Shot until next week.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 30 at 2022 2:16 PM

2022-09-30T14:16:26-04:00

You will be paid. It is illegal to make a person work for the government and not pay them. This philosophy has been adopted to prevent the government from abusing government employees.