Excess Soldier and NCOERs

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:25:06 -0400

Can a NCO that is an excess soldier (no slot for them on the UMR) still receive a NCOER. There are a few soldiers that are in this position that I know of, they have no actual slot but still perform duties such as planning training and change of commands and such but are being told that they will not receive a NCOER causing them to get multiple months of unrated time while waiting to move to their next assignment. Some how that seems wrong to me but I could be wrong.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2014 11:53 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:53:21 -0400

being "excess" does not mean they don't get an NCOER. this is from AR614-200

(7) In their PMOS in a position one grade lower if they are excess (excluding CSM/SGM). This precludes PCS moves and offsets grade or space imbalanced conditions between OCONUS and CONUS. Soldiers directed to serve in a lower grade position must not be penalized in their noncommissioned officer evaluation report (NCOER). The first choice for utilization of the NCO under this exception will be in a lower grade NCO position. Installation strength manager will provide Soldiers utilized under this exception the specific reasons for such action.

Response by SSG Thomas Lovins made Jun 17 at 2014 2:34 PM

SSG Thomas Lovins — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:34:00 -0400

I have recieved multiple NCOERS in a position that did not exist on the MTOE but is essential to unit functions. I worked as the Operations NCO for a company. All NCO's deserve a NCOER no matter what job they are doing. This sounds like a legit IG complaint. The only reason a NCO should recieve unrated time is if they're in a military school for over 3 months.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2019 6:14 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:14:28 -0500

To my limited understanding of "Excess" which I learned recently from being upcoming on a PCS you aren't able to be listed as Excess until 90 days from leave date. That being said my thru date is still my report date to my next duty station. The SM in question should still be being rated up until he/she reports. What I have seen as common practice is to move a NCO into another slot to make space or to double slot them. That being said they still get rated as the Duty Position they held. I don't know if this actually correct, but it seems to function.