Fiorina Endorses Torture, Warrantless Wiretap Programs. What do you think about this?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:51:34 -0400

" Waterboarding, she said, "was used when there was no other way to get information that was necessary."

WASHINGTON -- Republican presidential candidate and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina may not be a career politician, but a new interview sheds light on some of her firsthand experience in the national security realm.

In a Yahoo News interview published Monday, Fiorina said that shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, she redirected trucks full of Hewlett-Packard servers on their way to retail stores to Fort Meade, Maryland, upon request of then-National Security Agency director Michael Hayden.

Hayden told Yahoo he remembered telling Fiorina, then head of HP, “Carly, I need stuff and I need it now.” The NSA needed the servers to implement the controversial “Stellar Wind” warrantless wiretapping program.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carly-fiorina-national-security_5609537de4b0768126fe19ca?ir=Politics&section=politics&ncid=newsltushpmg00000003

Fiorina Endorses Torture, Warrantless Wiretap Programs

Waterboarding, she said, "was used when there was no other way to get information that was necessary."

Response by SFC Everett Oliver made Sep 28 at 2015 8:17 PM

SFC Everett Oliver — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 20:17:08 -0400

The world changed on 9-11-01. Unfortunately we have to change a little with it...We may not like all the changes and some of them were probably even wrong, but we haven't had a repeat performance....

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Sep 28 at 2015 10:38 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:38:35 -0400

I doubt that many business executives would have refused to provide the government with whatever help that they asked for right after 9/11. As for waterboarding she is giving her opinion of why we did it, not saying that she would do it. However I will say that I would do worse than that if it would save American lives.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 2:43 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 02:43:42 -0400

Doesn't bother me in the least. Personally anything that can safe an American is worth it. No doubt will not be acceptable by many but it is how I feel. So this does not taint my idea on whether she would make a good POTUS or not.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Sep 29 at 2015 2:45 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 02:45:49 -0400

I don't believe that enhanced interrogation is the same thing as torture, and I think we need to have it as a tool when needed. I don't believe that collecting metadata is the same as wiretapping, and it can help us detect terrorists in our midst. I agree with Carly.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 29 at 2015 2:49 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 02:49:32 -0400

You like Waterboarding? Tell me what you think after SERE Training. I have not a lot of use for this "Lady" and I use the term very loosely in her case.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Sep 29 at 2015 3:31 AM

Sgt Tom Cunnally — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 03:31:00 -0400

I think Carly is just playing to the Republican base. Her advisors check where the majority of conservatives are on these issues & then Carly sings to the Choir. I am not a fan of Carly Fiorina because I lived within a stone's throw from Hewlett Packard in Palo Alto CA & had several close friends who lost their jobs at HP & I have been a HP Shareholder forever.

Fiorina was beaten by (10%) when she opposed Barbara Boxer for the Senate. Boxer has had several personality implants but unfortunately for her she is still very unpopular. Fiorina thought beating Boxer would be a walk in the park if she just badmouthed Boxer.. But the HP firing hung over her head in this race. And could be there again if employees at HP begin to be in TV ads that demean and degrade her time as HP's CEO..1999 - 2005..

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Sep 29 at 2015 3:45 AM

TSgt Kenneth Ellis — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 03:45:30 -0400

So you have problems Carly Florina. And any thing you do is torture to Obama. You need to get over it or take it to face book.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 3:51 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 03:51:43 -0400

She can go straight to hell because who would be treated that way and for what?

Response by SGT David T. made Sep 29 at 2015 10:35 AM

SGT David T. — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:35:50 -0400

I am opposed to both of these. First, torture is known not to be the most effective method of information extraction not to mention that it clearly violates the prohibitions against cruel and unusual punishment. Second, warrantless wiretaps violate the 4th amendment. Regardless of the reasons for doing so, if we violate the constitution and the principles on which this nation was founded we trample on the very thing we swore to protect. If we violate our principles then we cease being what makes us American.