Florida National Guard Question?

2018-08-22T12:59:48-04:00

I can go into many of the details but I will keep this short for now. My son is in the Florida National Guard and went through boot camp between 11th and 12th grade. He did not finish the last week due to school starting up and he was not physically able to pass the PT. However, he did do 9 weeks of the training to which he received pay. However, at the end he never received any sort of discharge paperwork (DD214) or anything. He had 7 days of leave on the books that carried over through the year on his drill period LES's. Then when he started boot camp the second time the leave just went away without selling it at the base pay rate. I am a retired pay clerk from the Navy and I audited every LES to find that he has never been paid for this leave. His unit told him that I was wrong and that I could be in trouble as it is a conflict of interest. Someone please help me find a phone number that he can reach out to and put his case forward. The leave is now over 2 years old. I don't care about the conflict of interest, I will address that another day because that is not true also. I was given the LES's by my son and he asked me to audit. Anyone, please tell me how to contact someone above his unit in Florida to address this situation. I have all the documents to send. Lastly, shouldn't he have gotten a DD214 the first boot camp time from Fort Sill? Thank you in advance....???????????

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 22 at 2018 11:18 PM

2018-08-22T23:18:34-04:00

No not till he completed IADT meaning Basic and AIT if anything he would get a DD 220 for successful completion of basic training. Also on the leave side if the leave is not used or actions initiated to sell then you will lose it that’s why LES stats use /lose for leave. during my mday career at one point I accrued 3 days from going on back to back orders and was informed that since I am not a full time member that come the start of the new fiscal year I would lose it because mday leave does not roll over you must initiate payment or you lose it

Response by SFC Douglas Duckett made Aug 23 at 2018 2:28 PM

2018-08-23T14:28:51-04:00

1SG John Furr WOW!!!, your statement seems a little harsh; “Lastly, your son enlisted, not you, therefore it's his issue and he needs to deal with it. As a company 1SG I can tell you I refuse to deal with parents, cause last time I checked I'm not a Middle School teacher, and I'm dealing with adults who raised their right hand and need to manage their own careers.”

Would you use this same tone if the parents lost their unmarried son? Or a wife who lost her husband? I would think not. The Army used to be a family, leaders tried to get to know their Soldiers NOK, background, and the like. Here, you have a “Retired” Sailor and you just tell him to mind his own business and let his son handle everything, even after the young Soldier allegedly tried. Well, I believe as a father myself, sometimes my offspring’s business becomes my business.

As a 1SG, you may not be a “Middle School Teacher”, but you sure as hell deal with Soldiers families and their problems, this would be just an extension of it. If you came at me with that attitude over an issue about my son in your unit, I could see an escalation. I absolutely find your comments sickening and against what we, as NCOs stand for.