For NCOES has anyone ever seen Commandants List soldiers still get 11b (Achieved Course Standards) on their 1059?

SFC Steven Harvey — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:06:13 -0400

I went to SLC in 2012 and was put in the Commandants List, but my 1059 shows Achieved Course Standards. The only area it says that I was on the list is under the comments section;

11b Selected to the Commandant's list based on his academic achievements

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Jun 3 at 2016 12:11 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:11:50 -0400

Exceeding course standards is limited by regulation to 20% of class enrolment.

Commandant's list requirements very school to school... Commandant to commandant..

So if the School of Box folding commandant set the standard for the Commandant's list of:
All 1st time goes on written test
All 1st time goes on hands on Box folding test
No "demerit points"
and no EO complaints...to make the Commandant's list .. more than 20% may meet that standard... Thus YES you can make the Commandant's list and not meet the regulatory standard for "Exceeding course standards"

Bottom line yes it's possible and until you know the criteria set at the time you attended for making the commandant list as well as your placement in the overall enrolment number.. You can not answer your question of, was it appropriate to meet one criteria and not the other.

A call to the school house and request to know you ranking in the enrolment group as well as published standards for making commandant's list should answer your question.

Response by MSG Pat Colby made Jun 3 at 2016 12:14 PM

MSG Pat Colby — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:14:05 -0400

Was anything checked in Block 12 as Superior?

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Jun 4 at 2016 1:11 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 01:11:57 -0400

Response from the commandant
"Hey SGM. Thanks for reaching out. The two absolutely go hand in hand. The CL is the top 20% and those do "exceed course standards". Perhaps it was a clerical error on our part. Have the Soldier get in contact with me and if that is the case we will fix it. "
Keep in mind, he is speaking about the current policy, not 2012... But sounds like you should reach out.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2016 1:23 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 01:23:39 -0400

SSG Harvey,
In ANCOC Phase I, I exceeded standards in all categories, but only received a achieved course standards for overall course standards due to the Commandant's requirement that to get the top 20% your APFT must be 270 or higher. Since it was a requirement and my score was lower I received achieved course standards. Sometimes it is the Commandant of the school that sets certain requirements. This will effect your DA Form 1059.

Response by SGT Laura Martin made Jun 4 at 2016 1:53 PM

SGT Laura Martin — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 13:53:31 -0400

I excelled at everything and ACS because my SGL heard me tell
Someone I wanted to quit smoking and I didn't. He said it showed a lack of discipline!