For the folks that have been Involuntarily Separated...

PO1 Cleve Ikaika Waiwaiole — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 20:22:47 -0400

Do you think the old program (perform to serve) had more flaws than good? Ive seen many EP sailors and outstanding members forced out of service because a computer "said" they were not good enough. For an example, for myself, i was a 6yr PO3, rate was locked up for some time, multiple cycles in a row with 0% advancement, scoring high 80-90 Percentiles with MP-EP Evaluations. One big factor in my separation is my command didn't have an "actual" career counselor at the time and my PTS application was sent in over a year late. I didn't even know what PTS was at that time. Besides that, I've seen many, many great sailors, leaders being involuntarily separated. I just think a command decision should have been a part-factor if a member is valuable to the unit and to the United States service.

If this has happened to anyone else please share.

reason why I'm sharing this is because i was born to be in the service. I don't think i will ever be a civilian.

- VETERAN - BU3 (SCW) Waiwaiole, USN Inactive Reserve

Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made May 10 at 2015 8:06 AM

GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad — Sun, 10 May 2015 08:06:29 -0400

I expect that the reason you haven't had any response to your thread is that there simply isn't enough information provided. I would suspect, however, that there would have been mechanisms available for you to have appealed the involuntary separation. Did you attempt an appeal? Have you looked into the possibility of reentering active duty in another field? What about active reserve opportunities?

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 11 at 2015 5:53 AM

PO1 John Miller — Mon, 11 May 2015 05:53:37 -0400

PO1 Cleve Ikaika Waiwaiole, have you talked to a recruiter in hopes of coming back in?

I've been retired for almost 3 years now so I'm out of the loop but I believe there is recourse for Sailors who were separated under PTS(BS). I added the BS at the end to explain how I truly felt about the "program."