For those not satisfied with Clinton or Trump, how are you voting this November?

2016-07-27T06:09:58-04:00

For me, both major party candidates are people I couldn't vote for with a gun to my head. Hillary should be in jail for her violation of national security policies and Trump is a narcissistic racist that I wouldn't trust to lead a Boy Scout troop.

Anyone else feel this way, and if so, what are you going to do this November?

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Jul 27 at 2016 6:12 AM

2016-07-27T06:12:53-04:00

It's a regular free for all.

Response by SGT William Howell made Jul 27 at 2016 6:16 AM

2016-07-27T06:16:40-04:00

I am voting with disdain.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2016 6:17 AM

2016-07-27T06:17:17-04:00

Tough choices for America...

Response by SSgt Jim Gilmore made Jul 27 at 2016 6:25 AM

2016-07-27T06:25:54-04:00

Failing to vote is surrender. I know the lesser of two evils is still evil but the viability of a third party candidate or an independent will only siphon votes from one or both sides resulting in a plurality vote, not a majority. you don't vote, you can't bitch.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2016 6:30 AM

2016-07-27T06:30:51-04:00

I'm not entirely satisfied with Clinton, but I will still vote for her because a vote for anyone else means Trump gets the presidency, and that cannot be allowed to happen.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2016 6:35 AM

2016-07-27T06:35:47-04:00

I would vote for a can of spoiled tuna before I voted for Donald Trump. There is no situation in which that disgusting, immature buffoon of a candidate could earn my vote.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Jul 27 at 2016 6:36 AM

2016-07-27T06:36:40-04:00

Considering to not vote for either candidate but rather vote for candidates at the local, county and state level who I am familiar with regardless of party affiliation. Not ready for Green or Libertarian candidates quite yet..

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2016 6:37 AM

2016-07-27T06:37:29-04:00

Voting for Trump

Response by PO3 David Fries made Jul 27 at 2016 6:52 AM

2016-07-27T06:52:36-04:00

Third party. I am done with the lesser of two evils.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2016 6:54 AM

2016-07-27T06:54:17-04:00

When in doubt, party line usually works. Better than throwing away a vote.

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Jul 27 at 2016 6:58 AM

2016-07-27T06:58:07-04:00

Libertarian

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2016 7:26 AM

2016-07-27T07:26:47-04:00

For Trump. Hillary would be the worst, IMO. And a vote for the other two parties (other than GOP or DEM) would ensure she would get elected.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2016 7:32 AM

2016-07-27T07:32:17-04:00

Hillary

Response by CW4 Angel C. made Jul 27 at 2016 7:39 AM

2016-07-27T07:39:10-04:00

Yeah Johnson it'll be for me!

Response by CMSgt Mike Esser made Jul 27 at 2016 7:51 AM

2016-07-27T07:51:15-04:00

Trump....if any of us service members had broken the COMSEC laws regarding our clearances we would be tried and punished under the below USC...not to mention she lied to Benghazi families about the video....
FBI determined Clinton's private email server contained :
110 classified emails in 52 chains
8 top secret emails
36 "secret" emails
8 "confidential" emails
All were clearly designated as such at the time sent or received. Additionally, another 2,000 emails had been "up-classified" to confidential after being sent or received.
It also found several work-related emails Clinton's staff did not include with the 30,000 handed over to the State Department for release to FOIA requesters.

The McCarran Internal Security Act 793(e), States: "mere retention" of information a crime no matter what the intent, covering even former government officials writing their memoirs.

1.) 18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

2.) 18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information

3.) U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

4.) 18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

5.) 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees

If it can be proven that an accused destroyed, withheld, or concealed the existence of official records being sought under subpoena

6.) 18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations

7.) 18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States

If it can be proven that an accused arranged for the Department of State to hire an Information Technology (IT) specialist to primarily administer and maintain a private server system owned by the accused, then the accused can be convicted of conspiracy to commit honest services fraud and probably wire fraud.

8.) 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense

If any accused and any third party can be proven to have colluded in any violation of federal, criminal law, then all involved can be charged with criminal conspiracy as well as being charged with the underlying offense.

Response by SFC William "Bill" Moore made Jul 27 at 2016 8:20 AM

2016-07-27T08:20:02-04:00

I am not sold on Trump, but, there is absolutely no alternative. To pick anyone else would be to hand over the country, military and our society to an administration that will put the finishing shot to the head of the Constitutional Republic that we all have sworn to protect. An administration that has said they will continue with the policies and ideology that has brought more of a racial divide to this country than I have ever seen in my 53 yrs on earth, more illegal immigration, disregard for the laws of the land, arms to our enemies yet strive to disarm our citizens, leave Americans to die at the hands of our enemies. A foreign policy that is so non-existent that the world see's us as two bit rabble. Look at it this way; If you are going to be covered in cow shit, do you want to be covered to your waist (Trump) or over your head (Clinton). You can chose neither, pick door number 3 (other candidate/not vote), which will do nothing, and give the election to the scenario/candidate that has the cow shit well over your head. If I have to choose, I will choose the unknown evil over the known. At least Trump is not promising more of the same crap and not a career politician.

Response by LTC Tom Jones made Jul 27 at 2016 8:44 AM

2016-07-27T08:44:06-04:00

Our system has produced two really flawed candidates. Given this situation, I am looking harder than usual at the VP selections as a discriminator (Note: FLOTUS choice is a no-brainer). In truth, I think we have to look beyond these particular candidates to the separate Party platforms in order to assuage our personality concerns and to fulfill our civic duty in good conscience.

Response by SGT David T. made Jul 27 at 2016 8:47 AM

2016-07-27T08:47:46-04:00

Johnson

Response by SSgt Ray Stone made Jul 27 at 2016 8:49 AM

2016-07-27T08:49:41-04:00

Lesser of the evils is Clinton, so Im voting for her to keep Trump out. I wish Biden or Warren would have ran

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Jul 27 at 2016 9:04 AM

2016-07-27T09:04:00-04:00

Trump. But a better question would be list the top five reasons you would vote for your choice that has no reference to any other candidate.

Response by SPC(P) Patrick Westbrook made Jul 27 at 2016 9:15 AM

2016-07-27T09:15:38-04:00

It depends on who I'll vote for. If Johnson can get in the debates and if he says things that are inline with my beliefs, Ill vote for him. If he cant, probably Trump

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2016 9:19 AM

2016-07-27T09:19:27-04:00

I will hold my nose and vote Trump. I'd like to see a Libertarian in there but I disagree with too many of GJ's views and drugs and immigration. I sure as hell don't want Hilary so that leaves me one option.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Jul 27 at 2016 9:38 AM

2016-07-27T09:38:47-04:00

Despite disliking both primaries, my candidate actually benefits me if won.

Response by SFC Jeff L. made Jul 27 at 2016 10:01 AM

2016-07-27T10:01:48-04:00

Anyone ever see the South Park episode with the Turd Sandwich and the Giant Douche running for election? Yep, that's what we have here. Unfortunately voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. I haven't come to a final decision yet, but at this point I'm not planning to vote for either presidential candidate.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Jul 27 at 2016 10:02 AM

2016-07-27T10:02:37-04:00

SGT Christopher Churilla Although I am certainly not a big Trump supporter, I cannot think of anybody I would not vote for more than Hillary Clinton.

Response by Capt Gregory Prickett made Jul 27 at 2016 12:13 PM

2016-07-27T12:13:44-04:00

Gary Johnson.

Voting for either of Trump or Hillary is voting for evil.

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Jul 27 at 2016 2:49 PM

2016-07-27T14:49:39-04:00

I wanted former Governor (Texas) Rick Perry, the he dropped out. (I still am very surprised that that good man with good experience did not get nationwide support.) So, then I decided to support, ummm, I forget who, he dropped out. So, then I decided to support Ted Cruz (3rd choice), he dropped out. So now I'm stuck with Donald Trump (4th choice). I can't recall any campaign in my life where I was stuck with my 4th choice! (I voted for Nixon, and he was my first choice. =:0 ) So now, I will vote for the republican somewhat conservative candidate because any conservative is better than a liberal.

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Jul 28 at 2016 6:38 AM

2016-07-28T06:38:27-04:00

Having this choice is like choosing having the clap or cholera.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2016 7:35 AM

2016-07-28T07:35:57-04:00

I'm voting Trump. People need to not view this as a vote for President anymore. This is a vote for control of the Supreme Court. As much as I would love to vote for a third party candidate, we can not afford to. For my beliefs, which remain strongly entrenched in our constitution, I have to vote for the option that I believe will not add extreme left leaning activist judges to the Supreme Court. If that happens we can kiss our second amendment rights goodbye along with many other rights.

Plus... I want to see the media, GOP and Democrats heads explode if Trump wins. It would be a lovely rebuke of everything establishment.

And then of course there's the whole Hillary breaking the law thing. That goes without saying though. Can't wait for the rest of the leaks to drop. Must be juicy if the DNC is fearful of an October surprise.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2016 7:47 AM

2016-07-28T07:47:22-04:00

To all those supporting Johnson, I just have one thing to say. I will never attempt to try and push my beliefs on another. And I fully understand why you want to vote for him. I get it, 100%. But I implore you to reconsider, if in fact you are a republican, conservative or lean to the right in any way. Please think of the Supreme Court. We all know Johnson doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. Your vote is a protest vote. I get it. But please, think about this.

Imagine the Supreme Court with three more Sotameyers or Kagans. because that is exactly what you will get. The balance of power is already in jeopardy. With Scalia's passing, everything that the SCOTUS deadlocks on gets kicked back to the lower court's ruling. Now... suppose Hillary wins. Three radical justices are elected, because we all know Ryan has no spine to stop it. What does this mean? What little rights and freedoms we have left are gone. And you can guarantee that second amendment rights as we know them will be on the chopping block.

This is no longer about the president. Its about the Supreme Court. And yes, Trump, if he wins can always pick some weak or centrist judges. But I trust him a lot more than her. Plus, Pence is a conservative and I am sure his cabinet will keep him in line.

Again though, I respect why you are choosing Johnson. If that's where your heart truly lies, then I understand. I get it. We wound up with two horrible choices. But it is much deeper than the presidency.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Jul 28 at 2016 7:58 AM

2016-07-28T07:58:13-04:00

hrc has been portrayed as a "saint," so I will cast my vote for the "non-saint" Trump.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Jul 28 at 2016 8:00 AM

2016-07-28T08:00:03-04:00

Voting is a privilege and you the American citizen/ taxpayer should vote.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Jul 28 at 2016 9:16 AM

2016-07-28T09:16:03-04:00

Out of the two horrible primary candidates, one will bring my stocks up.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2016 11:38 AM

2016-07-28T11:38:42-04:00

Jill Stein. Her platform is not a perfect representation of my beliefs (particularly her support of opening our borders), but after examining the platforms of all three alternatives that I'm aware of (Green, Libertarian, and Veteran's Party) I've come to the conclusion that she represents more of my interests than any other candidate running.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2016 10:12 PM

2016-07-28T22:12:24-04:00

It physically pains me to write this, but quite possibly Trump. What it really will boil down to is the polling. If going into the voting booth Trump has a significant polling lead over Clinton then I will vote my conscience by voting for Gary Johnson, but if the race looks to be close I will vote for Trump to spite Clinton. This coming from a guy that voted for President Obama. Twice.

Response by SSgt Brad Ball made Jul 29 at 2016 12:09 PM

2016-07-29T12:09:13-04:00

I have pondered on this for a few days. What is most important to our country is the Supreme Court appointments over the next four years. These judges will for the destiny of our country as much as any president.You may not like either candidate but we should look outside the presidential vote and go with our gut for the Supreme Court justices. I was very hopeful for Cruz but now will pull for Trump.Clinton will ruin US!

Response by LTC Joseph Gross made Jul 29 at 2016 9:24 PM

2016-07-29T21:24:46-04:00

I'll vote for a 3d party candidate but because I live in Texas I have that choice. Were it a choice between the devil and Hillary I would vote for the devil. She is a vile, hateful person. I don't like Trump but I take exception with your characterization of him as a racist.

Response by SSgt Zachary Hunter made Jul 31 at 2016 11:17 AM

2016-07-31T11:17:56-04:00

#Trump2016

He is the best candidate to protect our rights and strengthen our military. Foreign affairs...? Ehhhh maybe not so much. We need a few years to worry about ourselves.

Response by SPC Perry Gresham made Jun 27 at 2020 5:05 PM

2020-06-27T17:05:46-04:00

I dont know what kind of survey your trying to pull off here but whats the point? Are you only enterested in people that agree with you? "For those who are not satisfied.... " Sounds close minded to me. I think (not that your enterested) that the man has made some painful and neccassry decisions. You people that talk mad shit about the man that prevented China from being given our freedom, shit our country. Has done what he said he would do and uncovered mass corruption has been fighting to secure our southern border.(I live less then 20 miles from it, and yes we need it) and has done it in the face of the bias media, the criminally currupt Congress. And all without pay should be ashamed of yourselves. Do I think he should be more stoic? God yes i do but the man has got us(Americans) at heart. The crazy shit going on outside isnt him thats the Soros/Clinton Foundation at work. Im Thinking I'll stand by our Commander in Chief.