Posted on Aug 14, 2019
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I graduated from WOCS March 20th of this year, however, my WOBC date is not until Feb 2020. Is this year until WOBC unrated time?
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CW5 Jim Steddum
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This time is unrated time. Rated time starts after completion of WOBC (when you are "trained"). This is supposed to be time you are acclimating to your unit and developing as an officer. See AR 623-3 and DA PAM 623-3.
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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Thanks for the answer and reference to the regulation. I learned something new today!
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MAJ Javier Rivera
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That’s what DA Form 1059 is for, is your school/training evaluation document.
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CW4 Eric Clayton
CW4 Eric Clayton
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The 1059 covers the WOCS time but she has to wait a long time before she graduates WOBC. That is quite a bit of “blackout” time. My WOBC was three weeks after WOCS so it wasn’t a big deal for me.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
MAJ Javier Rivera
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CW4 Eric Clayton it will perfectly work! Either splinted by phases or the entire course. E.g. the the Intermediate Leve Education of the Command and General Staff College, is a one year course for O4s. For it we get one single 1059.
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CW4 Eric Clayton
CW4 Eric Clayton
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MAJ Javier Rivera True but she’s already gone from WOCS and had to wait nearly a year for WOBC. I don’t think a 1059 will cover nearly a year gap between schools. Pretty sure there is a code on the evaluation which covers a gap this large. Either way she knows it’s unrated time.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
MAJ Javier Rivera
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Unrated time due to training is a lot more coming that some folks thing CW4 Eric Clayton. It a show stopper!
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CW4 Craig Urban
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You will be fine. I was not a pilot. As a WO1 I was the PBO for big windy. 1975 to 1978. Maxed every OER I ever had less one
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