Getting your foot in the door with USA JOBS ???

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:04:12 -0400

How did you do it ? Is there any secrets you care to share. I took a GS-4 position to start off. 11 months later I was promoted to GS-5. Is this the best way to go ? Any thoughts or insight would be greatly appreciated. Now I am waiting for another position to open up. I applied for 10 different positions, and all of them got sent to the hiring manager. Out of all them I'm still waiting to hear back from three. Keeping my fingers crossed, we will see how it goes.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 9 at 2014 1:33 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Aug 2014 01:33:35 -0400

That's a great question I'd like to know about too. I'm in the clearing process now for retirement. Will be available to work on 1 September but so far haven't been able to find anything. Really sucks especially with 23 years experience as a logistician.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 9 at 2014 1:59 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Aug 2014 01:59:36 -0400

I've applied for a number of Technician jobs with various units across the northeast and southeast. With some I was notified that I didn't meet the criteria. With some I never received any response. With one I received a notification that my application had been sent to the hiring manager and that they had 60 days to make a determination. After 60 days I hadn't heard anything. Finally, about 45 days AFTER the 60 days was up I got a notification that I hadn't been selected. I've seen the same position at the same unit posted once every couple of months since last June.

Response by SGT Chris Birkinbine made Aug 11 at 2014 6:11 PM

SGT Chris Birkinbine — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:11:14 -0400

Hopefully I can help shed some light on this for those of you asking, based on my experience. First thing is, USA Jobs is a HUGE cluster. And there are lots of things i have learned both in my application, and as a federal employee. I came in as a GS-7 last year, and made GS-9 in 6 months, and will be eligible for GS-11 in December.

I have so much information to relate that I am having hard time organizing it , so forgive me if I seem to jump around. I will try to answer the questions in the order I read them

Getting your foot in the door:

As a veteran you have veteran preference. Most people don't understand what this means. This is my understanding based on speaking with HR here at NASA. It means that once you pass the initial qualifications check, you (with everyone else) are sorted into three categories. The first is everyone who meats their wanted requirements. The second are those who meet the minimum requirements, and the third are those who made it past the prescreens by the system, but don't meet all the requirements. Each of these three groups are assigned a score. I don't know what it is but for simplicity lets call it group 1: 90, 2:80, and 3:70. As a 5 point preference veteran you get 5 additional points. as a 10 point preference veteran you get 10 points. You CAN NOT change your group however. So if you are a 10 point preference veteran in group 2, you will be looked at before anyone else in group 2, but after ALL group 1 applicants are considered.

That being said, try searching for job openings aimed at veterans. For me, I applied for the job opening "Opportunities for 10-point preference veterans" listed by NASA. What this does is basically throw your resume at every job opening that comes up with that particular organization. (which means you get a lot of rejection letters for jobs you never even THOUGHT you were qualified for haha)

If you are already a federal employee (NOT miiitary) you can select that in the options and the number of job postings pretty much quadruples.

Promotions:

Under the general rules of promotion, you are required to have at LEAST 12 months experience as the next lower grade AND at least 12 months from your last promotion (this includes steps).

Promotions within the GS scale are highly dependent on your job. My job was listed as GS-7, GS-9,GS-11, Promotable GS-13 . That means I could come in at a 7,9, or 11 level depending on my experience, and that I can become a maximum of GS-13 without competition. I can become a 14, but I will have to compete with others for that pay-grade.

Make sure you pay attention to this when you apply for a position. Also generally speaking your entry level pay GRADE is NOT negotiable, your step however can be.

Doing well and getting a grade boost each year is THE BEST way to go. Because of how Step promotions work, it would take you something like 18 years to go from GS-4 step 1 to GS-4 Step 10.

I hope this helps, and remember this is just my experiance and what I have learned after being a civil servant for 14 months, based of of reading of the OMP, and talking with HR. I am more than happy to answer any other direct questions.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 12 at 2014 2:05 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:05:18 -0400

The first thing you need to know about applying for a federal job via usajobs.com is this: a computer will look at your application first. It will consider how many key words from your resume/application match the job announcement. If the word 'instructor' is misspelled on the job announcement, you need to misspell it the same way on your resume. Why? Most resumes will not be forwarded to the hiring authority. If the computer does not send that person your resume, then there is zero chance of you getting the job.

Response by LTJG Thomas Ehler made Dec 16 at 2015 6:17 PM

LTJG Thomas Ehler — Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:17:33 -0500

1) Provide as much detail as possible - that's why the resumes are so long. It helps you get picked up by the initial computer screening

2) Use any acronyms you need to, but break them out in full the first time you use them (computer systems, software, etc.)

3) Explain in simple terms EVERYTHING you have ever done for pay or on a volunteer basis - it can all be counted in your favor. By all means include collateral/additional duties. Note that this file should be saved as it will be useful for tailoring resumes for non-Federal jobs - there will be a lot of information you can cut and paste to save time later.

4) Be patient. The Federal Government is often very slow to hire - it took me a year of looking to get hired the first time and about that long to move between jobs. It is much easier to move once you're in the system, however.

5) If you make it to the interview stage, ask for feedback on how you did. Occasionally someone will give that to you (it happened for me once) and it is very valuable to know how you are coming across to the hiring authority).