Posted on Jul 3, 2017
Given the opportunity, which article(s) of the UCMJ would you eliminate and why?
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I'll go with Article 125 Sodomy much like Casey Francia but for the opposite reason. As I man I have given and received oral sex among other things UCMJ would have frowned upon. Nevertheless the acts were consensual, we didn't mind it in the least and, pay close attention to this portion, WE WERE ADULTS! For me, that is an outdated way of thinking and seeing as how Don't Ask, Don't Tell has been repealed, quite frankly, it's stupid. BLUF, if you are an adult and the person you are having sex with is an adult and it's consensual, it's no one's business.
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MCPO Roger Collins - I agree it is best to leave what works alone. Not at all a legal scholar but I wonder if those two articles are slightly outdated and would not hold up as well these days in a court because of changes in federal and state laws as well as recent ruling by the supreme court.
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SSG Kevin McCulley
MAJ Ken Landgren so does the army now hold the position of only enforcing laws that it feels will pass the SCOTUS test and ignore the ones it won't? Should enlisted take the same eye towards the orders of their officers?
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MAJ Ken Landgren
SSG Kevin McCulley - If you want to debate give me a valid point of view. Did I mention SCOTUS?
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Well, since you know nobody that has been involved in a duel, the regulation obviously works.
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I see no issue with two people and a ref going fisticuffs. The ref is just to make sure no major injuries happen. Basically wall to wall counseling between two willing parties
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PO1 Sanford Snyder
Eliminate the dueling reg. and some young idiots will duel just because they think they can.
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All of it. The military has proven over and over it's officers can not be trusted to render fair decisions when other officers are involved. When it comes to officers of flag rank it's not a joke, it's a Greek tragedy.
Officers who raped their subordinates wife not only go free they are allowed to retire. Officers found guilty of conducting their own star chambers and federal crimes are allowed to retire and then brought back on active duty for a few days for a promotion is direct violation of the United States Congress...
Bluntly put senior leadership has proven time and time again they are manifestly incapable of Justice to all equally so move it to civilian courts.
We no longer war on wood ships far from shore.
Officers who raped their subordinates wife not only go free they are allowed to retire. Officers found guilty of conducting their own star chambers and federal crimes are allowed to retire and then brought back on active duty for a few days for a promotion is direct violation of the United States Congress...
Bluntly put senior leadership has proven time and time again they are manifestly incapable of Justice to all equally so move it to civilian courts.
We no longer war on wood ships far from shore.
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1SG Michael Bonnett
"promotion in direct violation" and "Justice for all" was intended. Typos happen
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