Green to Gold Active Duty, possible issues?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 19:56:31 -0500

I am considering going with the green to gold active duty option but I have just a couple of questions I would like to ask. It is the weekend now so I cannot ask at the moment and my education center does have green to gold information but the dates don't align well with my schedule.

So to start off, I do have 2 years of college left and by the time I could start college I will be 30 years old and will have just over 3 years of time in service. The issues I have is that the college I want to get back into has me as academically expelled, I didn't do well in class during my time there because of stress from my living conditions and financial issues that will no longer be a problem. My overall GPA from all of my college courses is still 2.49 so I'm right on the bubble there without a waiver. How likely would I still be accepted?

I know every person is different however I am certain that I can get a good letter of recommendation from my chain of command. I have never failed an APFT and have never even received a negative counseling. What are your guys thoughts on this? I suppose most of you would just say that it doesn't hurt to try but I just don't want to waste my time if I cannot get in. The college will accept me back since I meet the requirements to register and get approved again.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2019 8:02 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 20:02:04 -0500

I wrote a long message but my phone messed up in between so long story short with a 2.49 GPA your chances are pretty slim to none especially with your age considered.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2019 8:06 PM

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 20:06:51 -0500

Like SSG Marcias said, considering your GPA, you wouldn't likely get picked. The ADO is VERY competitive. There are only 200 slots overall. When you consider that, as well as your age..Well, let's just say there will be plenty of people with a higher GPA and they also won't need an age waiver..

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Mar 9 at 2019 11:13 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 23:13:19 -0500

I found your problem of interest, and I'd really like to suggest stuff to help if possible...however, while your explanation is quite detailed, it leaves out a good many concrete specifics that'd help give me a more decent idea of what happened...so, elaborate, if you can, as to whether you got an assocs along the way, your specific major for it, as well as the Bach, whether you've considered other svcs, the specific STEM coursework you've taken, with exact course titles, the actual grades you got in them, as well as your other coursework, so far as you care to go into, how many credits you've been taking a semester, whether you've ever dropped coursework...also, whether you've gone to the college admin, specifically, undergrad advisor, chair, dean, and/or provost, to explain what went wrong, and why...certainly, if you can get recommends as you describe, hard help a good deal, by all means...then, too, I saw youre in satellite comm systems, did you get a DANTES or Amer Council on Educ (ACE) mil transcript yet? Have you used DANTES or college level exam program (CLEP) to get coursework done...I'll suggest some online programs I know of, one I was involved with getting a 2nd Bach in math some yrs ago, a friend got his Bach in math from them and went Navy OCS using it, they were part of NYS govt, then split off and privatized, they're well known to the svcs, the other two are still state run...list hobbies, interests, reading tastes, and sports, incl martial arts, so I have a decent gauge of your mind...I've been in a similar predicament early on, I had a decent undergrad GPA, then overdid it by trying 21 credits one semester, which was idiotic, no one could've done that, no way, no how, in engineering, before I went back to grad school and also got the 2nd Bach after I'd gotten out...the GRE subject tests, not the genl test, used to be allowed pass fail credits either 24 or 30, half assocs level, half Bach level, for a passing raw score (not percentile), however, I gather that might be passe now, no longer done...there's also OCS, as well as direct commission indoc OIS, in addition to warrant...do you had any flight interests? Cyber interests? Have you thought about submitting for Army WOCS for rotary or fixed wing flight at all? The Army direct commission cyber program? Navy just reopened its WO1 warrant program for cyber as well...USCG has sevl direct commission programs, incl in engineering...USPHS has a program called Jr and Sr COSTEP and does use engineers, comp sci (CS), and IR, COSTEP is the USPHS analogue to ROTC, also, USMC has platoon leaders course (PLC), if you might care to look at that...there's also Naval flight ofcr (NFO) as well as USAF nav/weapon systems ofcr (WSO), as opposed to purely aviator...to try to help you adequately, that's the kind and level of specific detail I try to ask those with questions like yours to try to send in, whether here, or, if you prefer, as an email through the site here...I don't think the problem is as totally unfixable as you might think...you could ask for a probationary readmit, possibly as a nonnmatriculated, plus, I'd most definitely try to chat with the vet counselor at the school, as well as ask to see the various faculty I'd mentioned before...I learned a long time ago, that while a college is supposed to be difficult, it's very definitely not supposed to be torture, honest, OK? Give me as much as you can of what I'd explained, plus, look at the other sites I'll send you, I'll try to suggest as much as I can...having been an electronic tech, and electrical engr (EE), I know quite well the level of the MOS you're in, you wouldn't be in a field of that complexity without a decent mind, I assure you...I've been around a good many academic blocks, so, try to give me as much as I ask for, and I'll try to suggest what I can, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Mar 9 at 2019 11:14 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 23:14:10 -0500

http://www.excelsior.edu

This is the NY school I'd mentioned hat was part of NYS govt and split off....

www.excelsior.edu

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Mar 9 at 2019 11:14 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 23:14:33 -0500

http://www.tesu.edu

This is under NJ state govt....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Mar 9 at 2019 11:14 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 23:14:56 -0500

http://www.charteroak.edu

This is under CT state govt....

www.charteroak.edu

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Mar 9 at 2019 11:17 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 09 Mar 2019 23:17:56 -0500

http://www.ocsfoundation.org

You might well find the forum pages Jere of interest, it's not all inclusive, it doesn't cover Army WOCS or the direct commission indoc OIS programs, and also leaves out ROTCs, USPHS COSTEP, and USMC PLC, however, it does cover the five main svc OCS programs, though it does leave out the state run ARNG OCS programs, which could be another route for you, as well....

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2019 11:42 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:42:45 -0400

Honestly, you have absolutely no chance of an ADO Green to Gold scholarship with your GPA. A GPA that low doesn't meet the 2.50 requirement for TA.
Getting an ADO scholarship is extremely competitive, with about 200 scholarships a year total. You have to be better than not bad, you need to be exceptional. Not failing an APFT is what is expected of you. If you were Ranger qualified, 300+ APFT, and Division Soldier of the Year, you would still have face an uphill battle with a 2.50 GPA.