Has anyone ever heard of someone failing BLC for anything other and H/W or PT? Has anyone just not passed one of the writing requirements?

2020-04-21T00:12:35-04:00

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 12:13 AM

2020-04-21T00:13:43-04:00

Other than*

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 12:25 AM

2020-04-21T00:25:24-04:00

Yes. Plagiarism

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 12:25 AM

2020-04-21T00:25:41-04:00

I've never heard of it. You'd have to be pretty dense/slow to fail the classroom portion. Why do you bring it up?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 12:26 AM

2020-04-21T00:26:21-04:00

Yes. I went to BLC in august last year at Camp Ball, LA and its a few things that can you make you fail. Drill and ceremony and public speaking were a couple of the classes we took that if you failed twice u were kicked out.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 12:27 AM

2020-04-21T00:27:45-04:00

First, RallyPoint requires individuals to use their whole name, no initials or nicknames are allowed.

Secondly, yes, I have seen individuals fail/been kicked out for missing required items, failing the drill and ceremony/PRT/Land nav evaluations

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 21 at 2020 12:30 AM

2020-04-21T00:30:58-04:00

You can fail anything that is graded, and Yes they have.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 3:10 AM

2020-04-21T03:10:14-04:00

I saw someone drop from my PLDC for failing land Nav. I don't know if that's still a thing to fail for. We get about one a year in my battalion who fails for some reason or other.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 3:28 AM

2020-04-21T03:28:56-04:00

Ive seen people get the boot for not having all the required documents. Ive seen people get the boot for failing the written exams (and this was back in the day when it was multiple choice, on the computer and you could CTRL F to find the answers).

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 7:42 AM

2020-04-21T07:42:35-04:00

Absolutley You can fail Drill or Ceremony or even Leading PRT that can get you sent home you do have a second chance to pass them.

Also honor code violations Cheating, Plagrisim will get you sent home.

My best advice is go to the BLC website and pull the curriculum make sure you understand PRT and D&C also you will write a lot of papers in APA format. You will present classes and training classes alike.

If you have a good NCO they will make sure you are prepared and can execute the tasks before going inorder to set you up for success.

Feel free to contact me if you need more specifics or questions always happy to answer questions.

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Apr 21 at 2020 8:01 AM

2020-04-21T08:01:51-04:00

Way back when it was PLDC we ALMOST had an academic drop in my squad. We held study hall 2 hours every single night for a week straight, and 6 hours on Sunday before the re-test. He got a 72 (70 was a pass).
On a COMPLETELY different subject, do you know how hard it is to teach someone how to pass a test in English when they only learned the language 2 years ago?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 8:31 AM

2020-04-21T08:31:59-04:00

Not BLC but I failed ALC on a test. And we had a dude fail BLC for FTR too many times

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2020 1:31 PM

2020-04-21T13:31:44-04:00

when I went through PLDC (yes it was that long ago) I got tasked with mentoring a guy who was a 2 time failure for academics. The guy could barely spell his own name and I have no idea how he managed to get the minimum score on the ASVAB. Without a doubt one of the dumbest individuals I've ever seen in the Army. I basically held his hand and walked him through every assignment and tutored him before every test. He managed to pass with the minimum score though I'm pretty sure they fudged a little because he was such a nice guy and actually excelled in every other area. He was just dumb as a rock.

Response by SFC Herve Abrams made Apr 21 at 2020 4:49 PM

2020-04-21T16:49:48-04:00

Double test failures.

Response by SGM (R) Antonio Brown made Apr 21 at 2020 7:31 PM

2020-04-21T19:31:47-04:00

There are several reasons why someone would fail an NCOES. Too many people attend an NCOES thinking that it will be a walk in the park and the reality does not kick in until they are face to face with the first exam. You should not worry about failing. Once an individual has mentally defeated themselves they will never see success. You need to have the mindset that you will do well on all given tests/tasks. Much success in school.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2020 12:21 AM

2020-04-22T00:21:23-04:00

I just went through it in February . Best advice I can say is doing prt the correct way if you don’t have everything exactly perfect you’ll get a no go. knife hands, correct location, draws.. the correct commands, knowing the prep, recovery, mmd1&2, and hsd’s. Use acronyms to help you remember. Read fm 7-22. Look up the ar for writing format as you’ll be writing lots of essays. Get comfortable if your not already with public speaking. Practice is key. We only have 5-6 people fail out of my class. Our instructors were strict but standards are standards. Good luck.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2020 12:26 AM

2020-04-22T00:26:26-04:00

Usually you get two Re-do’s overall but only one attempt to re-do a a single evaluation. For example, fail drill and ceremony twice and your dropped from the course, fail drill and ceremony once and PRT once then your still in the course but have no more re-do’s. Take it seriously and don’t over think it and you’ll be ok. Doesn’t hurt to study from their website before you go though.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2020 1:02 PM

2020-04-22T13:02:33-04:00

I attended WLC in 2013. I saw one guy get kicked out for sexual harassment. One guy in my group failed field leadership twice, and was sent home. Guy was completely unprepared, and unfortunately couldn't catch up quickly enough at WLC.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2020 1:14 PM

2020-04-22T13:14:16-04:00

Is BLC the new version of PLDC, because I know our PLDC class lost about 25% by graduation, PT got some, Land Nav and test got the rest, you only got 2 tries to pass those and then it was a bus ticket.

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Apr 22 at 2020 1:42 PM

2020-04-22T13:42:03-04:00

I went to PNCOA/BNCOA/ANCOC/CA back in the day and we had PLC painting rocks down the road, I saw about 10% of my classmates sent back to their units for a number of reasons. Later in my Career I have seen less folks sent packing. To get removed from a source these days is sometimes a death knell to ones career. Units should only those that are prepared to attend professional development as it reflect very badly on the chain of command to send duds and waste slots and budget money. Schooling became steadily more concerned with standards, HT/WT in the 90's and I have seen Soldiers sent packing at in processing for being fat bodies that busted tape and BF % in addition to scoring poorly on entrance APFT's when they came with study numbers from their units. I would be hard pressed to remember sending a brain dead attendee to any school. But I suppose it can happen that a good troop has a major brain fart at BLC and fails to make the school standards. I wouldn't want to be someone who screws up like that these days as it would mean at best a long wait and harder screening for any future slots at worst a dead end in progression and a bar to re-enlistment.

Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Apr 22 at 2020 5:52 PM

2020-04-22T17:52:58-04:00

Land Navigation, some people can't find themselves on any map

Response by 1SG Ken Bedwell made Apr 27 at 2020 8:55 PM

2020-04-27T20:55:32-04:00

Of course. We called it "The Duffle Bag Drag". It happened frequently. You think you'll get credit for just showing up?