"Has anyone recently attended the RTS-M at McCoy?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 19:22:58 -0400

I just printed their schoolhouse sheet off ATRRS and it appears to not be the gentlemen's course I expected it to be. One of the things I noticed was a 'no alcohol' policy, which generally accompanies a locked down environment. Can anyone verify or disprove that you are not allowed to leave post or if in fact they have very strict regulations? Most of the stories I hear from ALC sites were about a pretty laid back structure with mostly student led projects and self-policing.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2017 10:43 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 22:43:48 -0400

When I was Army Guard, guys tried to avoid doing NCOES at Ft. McCoy...

Response by SGT Scott Henderson made Jun 15 at 2017 7:57 AM

SGT Scott Henderson — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 07:57:33 -0400

You're going to ALC in an attempt to further your career and you're biggest concern is "can I drink"?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2017 8:20 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:20:07 -0400

Most NCOPDS schoolhouses have a "no alcohol" policy. You'll get counseled on it upon inprocessing. It probably won't be a lockdown environment, but they still want you to focus on the course work rather than drinking at the bars. It's not a very long course, it's easier for the school and the students to just lay off it while you're there IOT avoid any inevitable issues.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2017 9:33 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 09:33:19 -0400

If you are going to McCoy there is not much chance to drink anyway. One sports type bar on post so they will know because most likely they will have people there as well. Only two small towns outside, Tomha and Sparta. I attended ALC at Ft. Lee, don't remember if they had such a policy but because of all of the AIT trainees, they expected you to maintain a high level of discipline. I was in one of the first classes for Lima that had split Reserve/Active instructors.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2017 9:43 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 09:43:38 -0400

regardless we are professional NCOs so policy or not we are to be an example to junior enlisted. we loose to many soldiers and civilians to drinking issues.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2017 10:10 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 10:10:52 -0400

When I went to ALC at Fort Huachuca, I don't recall them saying no one could drink. I know people did. I did. I went out with some other females to a movie and after we went to eat at a Mexican restaurant and I had a big ass margarita. That was the only time I had a drink there. If you get stupid and get in trouble, they treat you like you would be anywhere else. We weren't on lockdown. After class free to do whatever and weekends. I was there through July so we had 4th of July off even. Honestly that was like a 2 month vacation. I should've have done a college class online while I was there too.

I don't see a problem with having a drink once in awhile if it's allowed.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2017 10:17 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 10:17:14 -0400

It's funny when you go to an AA meeting like I went to one in Fort Lewis in 2009 period I have broken my ankle in combatives while sober and Afghanistan and was met evact to Madigan Army Medical Center where I spent two months with a woman warrior transition battalion mending a broken ankle. My wife is into AA and so am I. I went because I was bored to an AA meeting held at the time it was still McChord Air Force Base. Much to my surprise, I saw a master sergeant command directed to the AA meeting. I don't know what his offences were but it was his last chance. I also found out that the environment of the soldiers on Fort Lewis especially the high speed units was of excessive drinking between missions. I also was there to see a female E5 Air Force very attractive who was kicked out of the Air Force for getting one or two DUIs and having a bottle of wine in the morning to wake up. I haven't had a drink in 12 years and I've never had a DUI but I did used to be enough for ternity and drink a lot when I was in college. You never know about alcohol creeping up and taking over your life like those people that I saw at the AA meeting some lost their career over it period I am talking to you as a human being and not as a major. You should not give a crap about drinking alcohol when you're at a service School. I remember that right before I deployed to Iraq in 2004 that the command sergeant major was giving out one can of beer per Soldier. You Should do your best to not drink at all. My sister committed suicide due to a combination of drinking painkillers depression and the pending divorce. When alcohol comes to mind I think of her. Do your best not to drink and and my book there is no such thing as the Army's course of responsible drinking LOL.http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/orangecounty/obituary.aspx?n=&pid=175315548&referrer=0&preview=True

ROSE LORETTA CONWAY's Obituary on Orange County Register

Read the Obituary and view the Guest Book, leave condolences or send flowers. | Conway, Rose Loretta 9/20/1965 - 7/4/2015 I am sad to announce the sudden passing of Rose Loretta Conway. Loretta was born in Los Angeles. She was raised in Whittier and La Palma, CA. Loretta

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Jun 15 at 2017 10:30 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 10:30:05 -0400

"Does ALC at Ft McCoy have a 'no alcohol' policy?"

Commanders change, incidents happen daily that influence policy tomorrow,, so no matter what you are told by someone here as it was "when they went" it matters not,,,, what does the school house publish NOW, what does the school House issue for directives when you in process.

The only answer that matters is two fold.
What does ATTRS say for that school?.. That is your planning research.
Second, what are you told when you get there, That is your confirmation info.
Get prepped using your planning info, complete the task with your confirmation info.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2017 11:33 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 11:33:25 -0400

TRADOC has deemed a "NO ALCOHOL" policy for all students in training, regardless of school and rank. At least, that was the policy counseling statement I signed when I went to ALC Phases 2 and 3 down at FT Sam.