CPT Private RallyPoint Member 667351 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Covering yourself is always a good practice in theory. However, in some regards such as the Leave Packet (POV inspection, Trips, Counseling...etc) has the military took CYA too far?<br /><br />This also includes being afraid of too much risk in a garrison environment during training, for example: Not being able to conduct fuel operations with fuel for risk of fuel spill.<br /><br />Please discuss! Has CYA gone too far in the miltary? How can we change? 2015-05-14T11:14:19-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 667351 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Covering yourself is always a good practice in theory. However, in some regards such as the Leave Packet (POV inspection, Trips, Counseling...etc) has the military took CYA too far?<br /><br />This also includes being afraid of too much risk in a garrison environment during training, for example: Not being able to conduct fuel operations with fuel for risk of fuel spill.<br /><br />Please discuss! Has CYA gone too far in the miltary? How can we change? 2015-05-14T11:14:19-04:00 2015-05-14T11:14:19-04:00 PO1 Private RallyPoint Member 667361 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is a critical time when we have to wisen-up. A time to think about excellence and learn not to worry about making little mistakes for which we MIGHT get a little 'yelling'. Boo hoo! Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2015 11:18 AM 2015-05-14T11:18:05-04:00 2015-05-14T11:18:05-04:00 SSG Derek Scheller 667838 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my honest opinion I do believe CYA has and hasn't gone too far it is all situation depending. I truly believe society has forced it upon us as now we have to worry about everyone's feelings and whether or not they are going to call some lawyer or IG or someone else. We baby our kids and put them in a bubble. Yes this is a generalization but it is true. When it is life or death i get it, but I have no sympathy for stupidity and if you are told not to do something, then it is you responsibility to live with the consequences if you do it. Response by SSG Derek Scheller made May 14 at 2015 1:53 PM 2015-05-14T13:53:40-04:00 2015-05-14T13:53:40-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 667930 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>CYA should be an additional duty identifier. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2015 2:19 PM 2015-05-14T14:19:00-04:00 2015-05-14T14:19:00-04:00 Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member 1332281 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Here's an example of the SAPR program going too far <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jqpublicblog.com/how-to-destroy-a-fellow-airman-in-four-words-the/">http://www.jqpublicblog.com/how-to-destroy-a-fellow-airman-in-four-words-the/</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/044/543/qrc/MajTurpiano.jpg?1456448457"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.jqpublicblog.com/how-to-destroy-a-fellow-airman-in-four-words-the/">How to Destroy an Air Force Officer With Four Words: the Case of Maj. Michael Turpiano</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">When the systems and structures governing legal processes become too riddled with unwarranted and improper influence, legitimacy is jeopardized. U.S. v. Turpiano is case in point.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2016 8:00 PM 2016-02-25T20:00:58-05:00 2016-02-25T20:00:58-05:00 2015-05-14T11:14:19-04:00