Has CYA gone too far in the miltary? How can we change?

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 14 May 2015 11:14:19 -0400

Covering yourself is always a good practice in theory. However, in some regards such as the Leave Packet (POV inspection, Trips, Counseling...etc) has the military took CYA too far?

This also includes being afraid of too much risk in a garrison environment during training, for example: Not being able to conduct fuel operations with fuel for risk of fuel spill.

Please discuss!

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2015 11:18 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 14 May 2015 11:18:05 -0400

This is a critical time when we have to wisen-up. A time to think about excellence and learn not to worry about making little mistakes for which we MIGHT get a little 'yelling'. Boo hoo!

Response by SSG Derek Scheller made May 14 at 2015 1:53 PM

SSG Derek Scheller — Thu, 14 May 2015 13:53:40 -0400

In my honest opinion I do believe CYA has and hasn't gone too far it is all situation depending. I truly believe society has forced it upon us as now we have to worry about everyone's feelings and whether or not they are going to call some lawyer or IG or someone else. We baby our kids and put them in a bubble. Yes this is a generalization but it is true. When it is life or death i get it, but I have no sympathy for stupidity and if you are told not to do something, then it is you responsibility to live with the consequences if you do it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2015 2:19 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 14 May 2015 14:19:00 -0400

CYA should be an additional duty identifier.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2016 8:00 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:00:58 -0500

Here's an example of the SAPR program going too far http://www.jqpublicblog.com/how-to-destroy-a-fellow-airman-in-four-words-the/

How to Destroy an Air Force Officer With Four Words: the Case of Maj. Michael Turpiano

When the systems and structures governing legal processes become too riddled with unwarranted and improper influence, legitimacy is jeopardized. U.S. v. Turpiano is case in point.