Posted on Feb 23, 2014
SSG James Seets
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Todays Military is hands down a "smarter" military, but I raise the question; have we lost sight of the basic skills that it takes to be a letheal fighting force at the basic level? Have we created a "weaker" fighting force?
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1SG Michael Blount
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SGT -

 

I feel like I've been trying to talk over a hurricane on this same subject.  In many respects, I think we need to trash many of our politcally-correct, SHARP-paranoid, metrics-obsessed, mamby-pamby field manuals, rip a few pages from the USMC playbook and execute.  All my four deployments were with USMC and I have a good idea as to how they do business. No nonsense, if your feelings get hurt - tough and too bad.  They do everything with nothing forever. We need to get that same way - quickly.  What's frustrating is senior leaders pay lip service to this issue but little else. We gotta fix that.

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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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Sir - it's not so much holding the position. I want to EARN it, first.
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SFC Stephen Hester
SFC Stephen Hester
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Amen, 1SG. I like the way you think. I hope that attitude rubs off on your troops.
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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SFC i cant force my view on anyone, but I sure can try
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SFC First Sergeant
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SFC Hester,

Being a Soldier in 1SG(P) Blounts' battalion he is one hell of a guy and he has asked us not to refer to him as the position he is holding right now. I respect that and hope he gets pinned soon to make it official. I had been the 1SG for my company while ours was mobilized. I had asked the company not to call me 1SG because I wasn't one, and they called me Top all the time. I think when you request somebody not do it and they call you it anyway its out of respect. So 1SG(P) here is to hoping they pin you this month!!!!! No I don't have any inside info either.
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SGT Seets,

To be short, yes. What we have today is a is budget-sapped, contractor dependent, SHARP/EO paranoid, over-manned and under-trained force that executes COIN and full spectrum stability ops in a contingency environment with expertise, but may struggle in a conventional shooting war.

Such is the result of 13 years of combat in this environment. We will trim the fat, return to the basics, learn how to breach and clear a mined-wire obstacle, enter and clear a trench and establish a support by fire. We'll do annual CTC rotations and shoot until our fingers bleed. We'll get skinny again and kick Soldiers out who abuse the system as some sort of welfare and life support.

And this will the job of the NCO corps and the Junior officers who won't have a patch on their right sleeve. We'll get it done, though. Always do. RLTW.
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LTC John Czarnecki
LTC John Czarnecki
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LT Justin L, good response, but no, you'll not be shooting til your fingers bleed.  You'll be going "bang, bang" as you simulate shooting.  Get used to no money for training.

 

Yes, we SUCK.  Too many standards, too much emphasis on being PC, too much concern with embracing the end of DADT and hurting PVT Buttercup's feelings. 

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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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LTC - if ever you get stuck with a BCT Bn, I want in - we think alike.
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SGT James Elphick
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I have to agree. I picked up my old 7-8 the other day and realized just how much of it soldiers don't use and, even worse, don't know. Those are the basic skills for being an infantryman and in my time most of them were never taught. We did Battle Drill 1A, usually not even to standard, and that was it. As an Airborne Infantryman we sort of practiced airfield seizure but none of the other missions the Airborne conducts when behind enemy lines. To me those were the basic skills necessary for my job and I was rarely, if ever, trained on them. It may sound counter-intuitive when conducting COIN but you have to know the basics before you get to the advanced stuff.
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