Posted on Oct 29, 2014
Have you been in a combat zone where they treated you like Deputy Barney Fife? A few rounds of ammo that you had to turn in each nite?
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In certain places where the bullets weren't flying daily such as Zagreb, we had our weapons and only a few rounds of ammo. Many had to turn in weapons and ammo each evening... How much ammo should you be issued? Shouldn't it stay with you the entire time?
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Posted 10 y ago
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I stopped carrying my weapons down range and turned in my ammo just so I wouldn't shoot certain field grades. The fact it was so easily done said a lot about the command climate. I think in your case, someone was just being proactive to avoid something he probably deserved...
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CW2 Evans, you may have a point there! We were visiting various NATO nations along the way, to show our interaoperability. Only the Americans took our guns and ammo inside the wire in Zagreb. Even in Hungary we kept it.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
It is a sad commentary on our own policies and procedures when it becomes apparent that we pose a greater threat to ourselves than the enemy. What is it that we are doing so wrong that we create the enemies in the ranks?
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The only time that ammo and accountability for every round was when we were loaned out to Border Patrol/JTF6 (now JTF North). We were tasked to support the nation's federal law enforcement agencies in conducting counter drug/counter narco-terrorism operations.
Border Patrol agents walked in asked me what we needed, and how much? We only had our rifles, so we only needed 5.56...gave them a quick number as a worse case estimate and expected to get half of that. Twenty minutes later they were dragging in crates of ammo.
More ammo than we could carry. Nothing to sign for. When we went to turn it in, we were told to keep it and thanks for the help. We didn't fire a round, and had to figure out what we were going to do with all the ammo?
Border Patrol agents walked in asked me what we needed, and how much? We only had our rifles, so we only needed 5.56...gave them a quick number as a worse case estimate and expected to get half of that. Twenty minutes later they were dragging in crates of ammo.
More ammo than we could carry. Nothing to sign for. When we went to turn it in, we were told to keep it and thanks for the help. We didn't fire a round, and had to figure out what we were going to do with all the ammo?
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MSG Brad Sand
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It does kind of make one wonder why? If we don't trust our soldiers, they will act accordingly...if we do, same thing.
It does kind of make one wonder why? If we don't trust our soldiers, they will act accordingly...if we do, same thing.
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MSG Brad Sand
MSG Christopher Mackey
You can when you have so much ammo that you cannot lift your ruck? There are worse problems to face as a leader. I think when we were fully loaded, 90% was not even uncrated. Border Patrol was free and easy with the ammo, we treat each round a gem?
You can when you have so much ammo that you cannot lift your ruck? There are worse problems to face as a leader. I think when we were fully loaded, 90% was not even uncrated. Border Patrol was free and easy with the ammo, we treat each round a gem?
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Both of my deployments, we were required to have at least one fully loaded magazine on us at all times. That was even on Victory Base my second go around.
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SSG Paul Headlee
And if you think about why you would need to carry ammunition in the first place, one mag doesn't cut it.
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