Have you heard about the weapons stolen from the Army reserve center in Massachusetts?

2015-11-16T08:24:18-05:00

Is this an act of terror or just someone stealing weapons?

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/11/15/worcester-armory-break-in-fbi

Weapons Missing Following Overnight Break-In At Army Reserve Armory In Worcester

Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker urged the public to remain vigilant in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 8:45 AM

2015-11-16T08:45:28-05:00

I come from a unit in Mass. I hope its not them !!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 8:56 AM

2015-11-16T08:56:03-05:00

Not to get in the weeds of security of weapons, but one does not simply "break in" to a weapons vault. It has a gigantic steel door wired with an alarm that will alert law enforcement if opened without a code. After that, weapons are in a cage and locked in heavy racks.
Further, if you were breaking in to take weapons, you wouldn't just abscond with a couple. You'd try to get as many as you could carry.

This smells like either an inside job, where the culprit will be identified very easily, or a case of non-accountability after use, where the commander and armorer at minimum will fry.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Nov 16 at 2015 9:08 AM

2015-11-16T09:08:03-05:00

SSgt Alex Robinson sounds like whom ever did did travesty, if it was an inside job is, threatening National Security and will be a felon when convicted of this malicious crime.

Response by SFC Terry Fortune made Nov 16 at 2015 9:29 AM

2015-11-16T09:29:11-05:00

Don't know, but I'm sure that there will be a lot of question ask. Feel sorry for the full-time folks working there.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 9:36 AM

2015-11-16T09:36:20-05:00

It's almost always an inside job when this happens. Like others said, one does not simply use their ninja skills to break into a vault undetected.
We had one guy do this while I was in the Guard. He mailed himself a package to his home with 20+ pistols as the unit was deploying. It showed up and his wife called the Armory to ask if they wanted to come get their guns. He would have actually gotten away with it too.

Response by SGT William Howell made Nov 16 at 2015 9:40 AM

2015-11-16T09:40:47-05:00

I had to do an investigation on some M-16s that come up missing from a NG Armory. The guns were "Red Tagged" for repair and then were "borrowed" to take to the range for some full auto fun. The SPC could not get them back into the vault because the supply SGT had the combo. Heads rolled over that one.

I would think it is safe to say this is also an inside job.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 9:52 AM

2015-11-16T09:52:44-05:00

The headsman is sharpening his blade for the upcoming "executions."

Response by TSgt John Temblador, PI, CIPA made Nov 16 at 2015 10:25 AM

2015-11-16T10:25:33-05:00

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Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 10:32 AM

2015-11-16T10:32:32-05:00

well ... it got to be an insider ...

Response by LTC John Shaw made Nov 16 at 2015 10:48 AM

2015-11-16T10:48:14-05:00

SSgt Alex Robinson I saw this on the news last night as well.
This is both a weapons stealing and an terrorist attack.
They could have much better weapons by robbing a gun store, they must be really desperate to hit a reserve/guard armory.
The weapons should have been in the alarmed vault. These alarms go to a national centralized alarm point. These vaults are not easy break in points, weapons are to be secured in the racks as well and the rack secured to the floor:
1) Vault does not meet standards and no alarm - FSO is in big trouble
2) Could be an insider job, the investigators will check each person on the access list and their homes.
3) There should be a recording that can be viewed just inside the vault
I hope they quickly catch these folks.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 1:51 PM

2015-11-16T13:51:08-05:00

We drilled this weekend and our Reserve Center Career Counselor also covers the Reserve Center in Worcester. She was there Saturday afternoon and the center was not vacated until 1800. By 0600 the next morning when everyone returned, they found that someone had cut through the roof of the building housing the arms room and that they also cut through the roof/ceiling of the arms room and did get away with an undisclosed number of weapons. FBI was on scene within 30 minutes. There was also evidence that whoever broke in also attempted to cover their tracks with a failed attempt to blow up the vault... I'll be glad to be corrected by anyone from Worcester who was there as a witness. Sounds premeditated, planned, and executed well. But until they are caught, we'll never know.

We also had an incident at our Reserve Center at the beginning of the summer where several suspicious, middle eastern men were found walking the perimeter of the building during the week. Police were notified and these men stated that they were just trying to find the recruiting center, which doesn't exist at our Reserve Center.... OPSEC needs to be real and practiced. No one knows what will happen next.

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 2:12 PM

2015-11-16T14:12:20-05:00

Just a thief.

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Nov 16 at 2015 11:28 PM

2015-11-16T23:28:53-05:00

I guess I am wondering about the security measures in place? That does not sound like it was necessarily a "quiet" or fast job! Alarms? Cameras?

Response by Sgt Robert Rivard made Nov 17 at 2015 7:44 AM

2015-11-17T07:44:33-05:00

You'll probably be in for a shock when they found out who did it!!!

Response by SGT Shawn Volkmann made Nov 19 at 2015 3:05 PM

2015-11-19T15:05:21-05:00

News to me,seems like a lid is being kept on it.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2015 3:12 PM

2015-11-19T15:12:26-05:00

Some dickhead child rapist stole them

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2015 1:37 PM

2015-11-22T13:37:59-05:00

He's been caught!

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30558388/man-arrested-for-theft-of-16-firearms-from-worcester-armory#.VlFHFaV-3lE.facebook