Have you heard that two females have completed Ranger School? History has been made!

CW4 Guy Butler — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:16:20 -0400

Breaking news: two female Ranger students to graduate.

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Two female soldiers will graduate from the Army’s grueling Ranger School on Friday, becoming the first women to ever complete one of the U.S. military’s premier courses to develop elite fighters and leaders, Army officials said Monday night.

The accomplishment marks a major breakthrough for women in the armed services at a time when each of the military branches is required to examine how to integrate women into jobs like infantryman in which they have never been allowed to serve. But even as the two new female graduates will be the first women allowed to wear the prestigious Ranger Tab on their uniforms, they still are not allowed to try out for the elite 75th Ranger Regiment, a Special Operations force that remains closed to women and has its own separate, exhausting requirements and training.

The women will receive the Ranger Tab alongside 94 male service members in a ceremony at Fort Benning, Ga., the home of Ranger School’s headquarters. They overcame fatigue, hunger and extreme stress to graduate, Army officials said.

“Congratulations to all of our new Rangers,” Army Secretary John McHugh said in a statement. “Each Ranger School graduate has shown the physical and mental toughness to successfully lead organizations at any level. This course has proven that every soldier, regardless of gender, can achieve his or her full potential. We owe soldiers the opportunity to serve successfully in any position where they are qualified and capable, and we continue to look for ways to select, train, and retain the best Soldiers to meet our nation’s needs.”

The graduation ceremony event is expected to draw not only family and friends, but hundreds of well-wishers and media from across the country. The female graduates are expected to speak to the media for the first time Thursday alongside instructors and other soldiers at Ranger School.

The women have not been identified by the Army, but both are officers in their 20s and graduates of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., Army officials said. The female graduates started Ranger School on April 20 alongside 380 men and 17 other female soldiers in the first class to ever include women. The female soldiers were allowed into Ranger School as part of the Army’s ongoing assessment of how to better integrate women.

Some skeptics, especially in the military, have questioned whether the women were given an easier path to graduation. But senior Army officials have insisted that is not the case, and opened Ranger School to media for a few days during each phase to underscore the point and allow Ranger instructors and others involved in their evaluation to speak.

The course includes three phases: The Darby Phase at Fort Benning, the Mountain Phase in northern Georgia’s Chattahoochee National Forest and the Florida Phase on and around Eglin Air Force Base on the Florida Panhandle. About 4,000 students attempt Ranger School each year, with some 1,600 — 40 percent — graduating. They include some service members who serve in the Ranger Regiment, but also many others who serve in jobs ranging from military police to helicopter pilot.

The course is 61 days for students who complete each phase on the first try. But only a minority do so. In the April class, for example, 37 of the 380 male students — about 10 percent — advanced directly through training, graduating earlier this summer. The remainder of the students — including all of the women — have struggled more than that, although 97 men overall graduated previously.

The nineteen female students were whittled to eight in April during an initial assessment that includes everything from chin-ups to push-ups to an exhausting 12-mile road march through Fort Benning’s hills while carrying a full combat load. All eight women then failed the first Darby Phase twice, and only three were allowed to try Ranger School again. They did so as a “Day 1 recycle,” an option that is offered on occasion to both men and women who excel in some aspects of Ranger School, but fall short in something specific that can be improved.

Two of the three women left then passed through the 20-day Mountain Phase on the first try in July, and completed the 17-day Florida Phase over the weekend. The third woman was held back in the Mountain Phase last month; her status was not immediately clear Monday night, but she could feasibly still graduate at a later date. The latest Mountain Phase began Aug. 9, Army officials said.

The two women graduating Friday began the Florida Phase alongside 163 men. About 57 percent of them did not pass it this time. It was not immediately clear how many of them will be allowed to try it again.

Retiring Army Chief of Staff Gen. Raymond T. Odierno told reporters at the Pentagon last week that the women who remained in Ranger School that if a soldier — male or female — can meet the standards the service has established for a job, they should be able to serve in it.

“The women in Ranger School are another example of, if they can meet the standard, they should be able to go, and they should be able to earn their Ranger tab,” Odierno said. “And I think that’s how we want to operate as we move forward.”

Odierno said no final decisions have been made whether to open the Army infantry or armor units to women, but he expected those to be made shortly.

“The feedback I’ve gotten with these women is how incredibly prepared they are,” he said of the remaining women in Ranger School. “The effort that they’ve put forward has been significant. They’ve impressed all that they’ve come in contact with. They are clearly motivated… and frankly, that’s what we want out of our soldiers.”

Odierno said he expected the Army to run another Ranger School course beginning in November to collect more information. A decision will be made afterward on whether to open the course permanently to women.

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History made: Army Ranger School to graduate its first female students

The women will graduate alongside male service members Friday in a ceremony at Fort Benning, Ga.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 8:22 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:22:03 -0400

Thanks for posting

Response by LTC Yinon Weiss made Aug 17 at 2015 8:24 PM

LTC Yinon Weiss — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:24:07 -0400

Great for the graduates. Congratulations to them all!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 8:26 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:26:25 -0400

As all the RIs told us during grad week "you aren't graduates yet. A lot can happen in 4 days"

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 8:28 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:28:13 -0400

Congratulations all who graduate.

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Aug 17 at 2015 8:38 PM

CSM Michael J. Uhlig — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:38:49 -0400

For the rest of their career, everyday will be the hardest day to live up to the example of being a RANGER. Well done, now the challenge begins.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Aug 17 at 2015 8:40 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:40:47 -0400

When they join RallyPoint they can claim this. Nicely done everyone.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 9:01 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:01:11 -0400

CW4 Guy Butler, good for them. What's next, SF or Navy Seals? What other barrier will be broken?

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Aug 17 at 2015 9:12 PM

CMSgt James Nolan — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:12:08 -0400

Kudos. They earned it, like everyone else. Hat's off to anyone that makes it through Ranger School.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Aug 17 at 2015 9:26 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:26:56 -0400

HOOAH!!!!!

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 17 at 2015 9:27 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:27:20 -0400

Awesome! Well done.

Response by 1SG John Keefer made Aug 17 at 2015 9:28 PM

1SG John Keefer — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:28:49 -0400

Congratulations to all the Ranger graduates! RLTW!!

Response by 1LT Richard Browning made Aug 17 at 2015 9:29 PM

1LT Richard Browning — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:29:19 -0400

Congratulations to both of them tough young woman my only concern is that the same thing is going to happen to RS as happened to jump school RS pass rate has gone from about 35% pre 1980 to almost 60. How is that not lowering standards? Jump School prior to 74 was to train paratroopers after it was open to females. parachutists.

Response by MSG James Douglas made Aug 17 at 2015 9:32 PM

MSG James Douglas — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:32:32 -0400

http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2015/08/17/two-women-earn-ranger-tabs-first-army/31889239/

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 9:33 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:33:13 -0400

Super! Now bottle that motivation:)

Response by SN Greg Wright made Aug 17 at 2015 9:34 PM

SN Greg Wright — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:34:41 -0400

Outstanding! Congrats. Here's to hoping the Army lets them into the Regiment.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Aug 17 at 2015 9:35 PM

SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:35:44 -0400

Let equality began for all! Great epic moment in Ranger History!

Response by LTC Gavin Heater made Aug 17 at 2015 9:47 PM

LTC Gavin Heater — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:47:40 -0400

This is an historic event in the storied legacy of Ranger School. While I believe female Soldiers have the mettle to serve as combat leaders, and recognize that not all Ranger School Graduates serve in Special Operations Units in their career, the decision to employ women warriors in small unit direct action still seems a while away. Service Chief politics will play heavily on how this future pans out.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Aug 17 at 2015 10:42 PM

LTC Bink Romanick — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:42:21 -0400

Army strong!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 10:52 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:52:03 -0400

CPT Private RallyPoint Member ,

Sir, this is a great accomplishment, but I do not believe that this will have a drastic affect on the military.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 11:15 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:15:41 -0400

http://www.havokjournal.com/nation/president-plans-to-attend-ranger-school-ceremony-this-guarantees-first-women-will-graduate/

Something to make you think. Now do I personally think that the president coming to graduation is the reason the two females graduated? Emphatically no. However it is more thing that gives fuel. Why should he go to this graduation and never have been at another?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 11:16 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:16:51 -0400

Congratulations to all of the graduates, not just a few. Now get some food and get back to work.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 11:26 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:26:46 -0400

How will it shape the future of a gender neutral Army? Well, the PC crowd will champion this as women are equal in every way. The reality is that it took an enormous investment of time and training to specially select 100 women to attend a prep course, of which only 19 passed. Of the 19, only 2 made it to Florida after 2 recycles and one is still in the Mountain Phase. Contrary to the PC crowd, it was a waste of assets...but that 2% of 100 candidates selected after an Army wide call will pave the way for women to eligible for jobs they should not be doing. Not because they are inferior, but because most combat arms units are undermanned (no pun intended) and only have a finite number of slots to train soldiers to fill those slots. Every slot given to a woman means a drastically reduced chance a man could have filled that slot.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Aug 17 at 2015 11:35 PM

COL Charles Williams — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:35:53 -0400

CPT Private RallyPoint Member I had not, but I assumed they would ...once they got to Florida, they would make it, as my post on this stated. I am happy for them. Now the Army has to decide what, if anything, this means. They have yet to do an Infantry or Armor OSUT or BOLC pilot. Does this mean woman will be allowed in all MOS and units? What about the 75th?
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/it-appears-the-first-two-females-at-ranger-school-might-graduate-soon-what-questions-does-this-answer

It appears the first two females at Ranger School might graduate soon. What questions does this...

If you have been to Ranger School, you well know, once you get to Florida, you are pretty much done... so long as you can pass one patrol, and you don't get hurt; home stretch for 17 days... It appears, the first two women (ever) will soon graduate and receive their well earned Ranger Tab... No easy task for anyone... to say the least. Will this answer the Army's question of should/can women serve in direct combat MOSs? Remember, anyone from...

Response by CPT Russell Pitre made Aug 17 at 2015 11:37 PM

CPT Russell Pitre — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:37:43 -0400

Congrats to them. As the CSM said. Getting the tab is the easy part. Living up to it where you will challenged everyday of your career.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Aug 17 at 2015 11:43 PM

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:43:27 -0400

Congrats to the Ladies. Well earned! As to the shaping of the future. It proves that at least 2 woman can make it through without lowering the standards. Might cause a push for more woman to attempt pre-ranger and generate assignment for these ladies to the training unit.

CPT Private RallyPoint Member, Thoughts?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 12:07 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:07:12 -0400

My belief is women should be open to everything but standards should be dropped for no one! If anything some cases they may need to be rasied. I feel that for any organization within the military, the challenge is to keep the standards high but obtainable for enough people male or female to fill its ranks. Organizations like the Rangers, SF and other spec ops throughout the military are designed to have higher standards out of necessity.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 12:09 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:09:04 -0400

Response by COL Charles Williams made Aug 18 at 2015 12:12 AM

COL Charles Williams — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:12:46 -0400

Hooah!!!! Good for them! Now the Army needs to decide what means.... Will we allow women to serve in all MOSs and units... That is the elephant in the room. 96 out 300 or more... is good deal.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 12:14 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:14:19 -0400

Thanks to TSgt Joshua Copeland for inviting me to this.

There is still a lot of tension in the Ranger Community over this. Some are welcoming it but most are not. There are a lot of issues and questions that this will bring up. But thing that I found to the odd was that both officers were from West Point. I will say that they most likely are the creme of the crop of all the officers of the Army. I have no doubt they aren't your topical officer. But all the enlisted got knocked out. It makes a serous issue again. Like in the Marines when the females successfully passed the enlisted infantry school but non of the officers passed the Infantry Officer Course. I don't think they will be in an infantry roll at all but it would set them up for success in some special units like SF. I am curious to see what will happen now that they new Chief of Staff is here now. He is SF and Ranger qualified. I think he may have a better outlook on this. At the end of the day what is the result. Are we going to just push women through to say they can make it or are we going to use these women in unique position were they can use their newly gained skills. I have no doubt that any unit will benefit from having a person that is Ranger Qualified.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 12:15 AM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:15:00 -0400

Two women graduating Ranger School isn't a big deal. The enormous effort it took to graduate 2 women out of 19 candidates who were part of 100 women specially selected from an Army wide call is a big deal. Ranger coded slots are unfilled. Ranger School has finite slots. The test run to see how women performed resulted in a dismal performance in terms of training resources expended to get a female Ranger graduate.

As an Infantry Officer, you should be aware of the value of having a Ranger qualified soldier in your unit. You should also be aware as a CPT about how budgeting has a direct effect on the number of school slots your unit gets per year. Those slots are dictated by MTOE and then by available funds. As a CPT in the Infantry, you are a Company Commander or staff officer. Tell me, as a good custodian of Army funds, could you justify sending a woman to Ranger School over a man based strictly on the PC need to gender nullify the Army?

Response by PO1 Sojourner "Chancy" Phillips made Aug 18 at 2015 12:23 AM

PO1 Sojourner "Chancy" Phillips — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:23:22 -0400

Congratulations to these 2 Soldiers. For me this is one of the most awesome "shatterings of the glass ceiling" ever. My thoughts are that in uniform everyone is the same thing. All in Army are Soldiers. However, I have gotten l lot of ridiculous remarks for saying that.....grooming standards, separate heads and all that bs. This accomplishment by these 2 women is not about gender neutrality. But lots will say so. I believe we are behind the times on the gender issues in out military. When I had the opportunity to work with NATO Sailors and pilots years ago i found out that they dont separate their personnel on ships by gender only by rank. Same berthing same, heads. So think that it is time we caught up.

Response by CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret) made Aug 18 at 2015 12:24 AM

CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret) — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:24:12 -0400

Tough school, my hat's off to them and anyone who makes it through Ranger school!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 12:46 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:46:25 -0400

I suppose only time will tell. There are still a lot of issues that will have to be address. I know congress wanted to open up all jobs to females but what impact will this have with integrating them with in combat arms now. I think if the Army goes to with females in the infantry then the Marines will have to follow. It has been said that there will be another class going on. I am curious to see what he new CoS will say about this also.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 1:07 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 01:07:02 -0400

Look at the Israeli Defense Forces. They show that women are capable warriors! Need I say more? Congratulations to these outstanding women!

Response by PO1 Sojourner "Chancy" Phillips made Aug 18 at 2015 1:09 AM

PO1 Sojourner "Chancy" Phillips — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 01:09:30 -0400

Anytime women in the military or anything else that is challenging have done something they were expected to fail at it had been a big deal and all was supposed to fall apart. However nothing has ever fallen apart. Unfortunately women are always expected to fail when trying to "do a mans job". The talk of these 2 failing the next phase has already started.
When a man accomplishes a challenging task the respons is great job, let me buy you a beer.
When a woman does the same task the response is wow i did not think you would make it, good job, but you know the next part is even harder.
I have seen it throughout my career and life. But this makes me proud. The three things i have always wanted to see happen in the military have happened.
1. Female Blue Angel
2. Female Navy Diver/EOD
3. Female SF (did not matter which branch)
Now we may resume in just calling them Soldiers and Sailors because when they are doing their jobs their genders dont matter.

Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made Aug 18 at 2015 4:11 AM

GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 04:11:58 -0400

Now that they have cleared that hurdle ...

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 8:44 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:44:08 -0400

Great accomplishment; however, combat is the ultimate test.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 8:58 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:58:22 -0400

I agree CW5 Charlie Poulton, they both deserved all the credit in the world, but what is next for them?

Response by SGT Kristjan Rahe made Aug 18 at 2015 9:20 AM

SGT Kristjan Rahe — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:20:02 -0400

Hooah to these women. With the numerous detractors it is awesome that once again women have proven they are up to the challenge. The question remains, who has the problem with women's service?

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 18 at 2015 10:01 AM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:01:21 -0400

Good for them. I hope that are able to uphold the standards of their brother Rangers

Response by SFC Stephen King made Aug 18 at 2015 10:03 AM

SFC Stephen King — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:03:56 -0400

Congratulations to all Rangers for completing their training great job to all.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 10:18 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:18:34 -0400

My personal view is congratulations to them. There may be nay sayers and I am not one. God bless them.

Disclaimer my post here is not meant to represent the official view of USARA (for or against), for the USARA view see the USARA Web page.

Response by SGT Darryl Allen made Aug 18 at 2015 11:51 AM

SGT Darryl Allen — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:51:38 -0400

I've seen so many comments about "standards" from guys that aren't tabbed, and many of whom have never served in the military at all. If you (like me) have never been through Ranger School, then you can't say shit about the standards, and by doing so, you're questioning the integrity of every RI in the ARTB.

Response by SMSgt Tony Barnes made Aug 18 at 2015 12:00 PM

SMSgt Tony Barnes — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:00:14 -0400

They haven't graduated yet. :-)

Response by PO2 Jeffrey Sheibels made Aug 18 at 2015 12:04 PM

PO2 Jeffrey Sheibels — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:04:30 -0400

Their first mission will be going over to the middle east and scaring the crap out of ISIS...hahahaha....

Response by SPC James Burkett II made Aug 18 at 2015 1:05 PM

SPC James Burkett II — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:05:50 -0400

It's a great stride forward for the females of our service and our services in a whole seeing warriors as warriors and not by their gender.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Aug 18 at 2015 1:24 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:24:32 -0400

After all this furor over females in the Rangers, it's going to be interesting where they are assigned.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 1:59 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:59:57 -0400

This is a step in the right direction and good job to those who will graduate.

Response by COL Ken LaPlante made Aug 18 at 2015 3:33 PM

COL Ken LaPlante — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:33:41 -0400

Congrats to the two females who met or exceeded the Ranger School standards and good luck to the third back in Mountain Phase. These two, like their successful male counterparts, have made themselves better leaders; they have a better appreciation for what they are capable of doing under extreme mental and physical conditions; and, they know what is needed to assimilate self into a successful team -- they are Rangers (tabbed, not scrolled). The expectations of them will higher than their male counterparts for a while, but like anyone else entering a room with the Tab, they will be identified as someone who met the challenge and succeeded; and therefore, until proven otherwise, will be accepted as a leader. When one Ranger sees another, there is an instant trust, confidence and bond, period. Where this goes is to be seen but for now -- we have new junior leaders of whom to be proud! Again, congratulations to all the new Ranger Tab earners.

Response by SGT Lawrence Corser made Aug 18 at 2015 7:07 PM

SGT Lawrence Corser — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:07:33 -0400

Very tough school, Hell the pre ranger was tougher then Naugahyde. Never a fan orf ruck runs but glad we have those out there to do it! Good job rangers.

Response by LTC Karl Slaughenhaupt made Aug 18 at 2015 8:20 PM

LTC Karl Slaughenhaupt — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:20:47 -0400

How many of you, other than me, are Ranger qualified (Class 13-89), are recipients of a CIB (Desert Storm and OEFx2) and have served in a 5R, 5S, or a V coded position? If not, your opinion bears no weight. (I know this comes off as bragging, but I am just establishing bona fides.) Have the good sense to know your limitations. I love cooks, truck drivers, and mechanics; they are what makes the Army run. But I am not going to discuss how to clear a room, conduct a cordon and search, or execute an L shaped ambush with them. The vast majority of you have no clue what you are talking about.

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Aug 18 at 2015 8:40 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:40:41 -0400

Congratulations to the lady Rangers!

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 9:01 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:01:35 -0400

Ranger ladies? That phrase is insulting. As much as I disagree with why they were allowed to attend Ranger School let's not resort to calling them Ranger ladies. Rangers are just Rangers...not Ranger Men, not Ranger Dudes, Ranger Bros and especially not Ranger Ladies.

Ranger ladies...this is something that I would expect to see in an FRG flyer for an ice cream social for the wives of soldiers in the 75th Ranger Regiment.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 9:08 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:08:41 -0400

One word. Congratulations.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Aug 18 at 2015 9:18 PM

COL Charles Williams — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:18:20 -0400

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member I don't get "Ranger Ladies?" This has been posted many times, during and after.... I am happy for them, so long as they met the same standards. I have heard they did, I suspect in some regards it was harder, and I have been they did not - excessive preparation, no peers, etc. No one will ever know, and many will never accept what they are told. I trust the Army, and our leadership. The real elephant in the room is "so what?" What does this do, for our Army, with regards to answering the question, which remaining MOSs and unit need to remain closed to women, and which ones should not?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 10:40 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:40:05 -0400

Response by PO3 Sherry Thornburg made Aug 20 at 2015 2:20 AM

PO3 Sherry Thornburg — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 02:20:51 -0400

Congrats to them both. Major accomplishment.

Response by CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR made Jan 26 at 2018 3:19 PM

CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR — Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:19:18 -0500

Its actually 3.....

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2018 12:34 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:34:37 -0400

I umpire NCAA softball and USMA is a school I go to. I wouldn't be surprised if their third baseman from '16 is one of them.

Response by 1SG Dave McWilliams made Sep 19 at 2018 2:32 AM

1SG Dave McWilliams — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 02:32:49 -0400

So the question that I’m
Sure is circulating is if the standard is adjusted so that they passed one of the phases . I’m sure their are exodctions to the rule but at what level of compromise ? Just playing devils advocate