Home grown terrorism in the Army?

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:04:37 -0400

A National Guard Soldier and his cousin were just arrested and implicated in an ISIS inspired attack plot on military installations in the U.S. They planned to use military uniforms and weapons to stage the attack.

Thoughts?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/two-us-men-arrested-in-plot-to-attack-illinois-military-base-justice-dept/ar-AAa2JIZ?ocid=iehp

Two U.S. men arrested in plot to attack Illinois military base: Justice Dept

A U.S. Army National Guard soldier and his cousin have been arrested on charges of conspiring to support Islamic State, the Department of Justice said on Thursday. The two Chicago area men, both U.S. citizens, spoke of using army uniforms, along with military knowledge and access, to attack an Illinois military installation, the department said in a statement.

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Mar 26 at 2015 5:08 PM

CSM Michael J. Uhlig — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:08:19 -0400

Facing a maximum of 15 years imprisonment and a max fine $250K seems a little light to me, especially for the 22 year old Soldier!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2015 5:08 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:08:42 -0400

If you feed a pig it will grow!!

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Mar 27 at 2015 8:53 AM

SFC Collin McMillion — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:53:00 -0400

If they want war, give them war! Take them out and shoot them!

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2015 8:57 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:57:05 -0400

Be a sheep dog, never a sheep! The wolf is always there.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Mar 27 at 2015 12:55 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 12:55:27 -0400

This is nothing new. We have people like this in our ranks for a very long time.

I'll never let anyone forget about the time I witness such craziness first hand.

One Soldier developed and carried out a plan against US-based interests and it's military in an attempt to stop the invasion of Iraq just 2 days prior to the invasion. Two Service Members were kills and several injured.

United States v. Hasan K. Akbar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

United States v. Hasan K. Akbar was the court-martial of a United States Army soldier for a premeditated attack in the early morning hours of March 23, 2003, at Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait, during the start of the United States invasion of Iraq.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2015 1:11 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:11:03 -0400

I really hope an in-depth study is done that looks at how they guys were turned, and that we can figure out to stop it from happening. If they are found guilty, they should be locked up for the rest of their natural lives.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 27 at 2015 1:32 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:32:17 -0400

I caution against using the term "terrorism" (yet). Attacking a military installation (hard target) even by a terrorist organization, is not necessarily "terrorism," as a=opposed to an "act by terrorists."

This is more akin to a military operation 'as described.' We risk diluting the term when we call everything and anything terrorism. If the goal was to change policy through force by instilling fear/terror, then it is terrorism. If it was merely to strike a target without the intent of changing policy... then things get sketchier.

As for the perpetrators. This is why we must always be vigilant.

Response by SPC David S. made Mar 27 at 2015 2:13 PM

SPC David S. — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:13:48 -0400

This is a good example of why stolen valor can not be allowed. You can't allow individuals to go around wearing the uniform as it presents a serious security risk. Hasan Edmonds was going to let his cousin, Jonas Edmonds, use his uniform to carry out the attack as he traveled overseas to join ISIS. This is not just about having the right to lie there are serious implications in this not being a crime. The father, Lieukennye Edmonds, is serving a prison sentence for failing to register as a sex offender stemming from a 1990s conviction for the attempted sexual assault of an Aurora woman. Jonas Edmonds and two others were charged in suburban Atlanta in the armed robbery of a McDonald's restaurant, court records show. He pleaded guilty in 2005 and served 5 years of a 15 year sentence. Send them to Leavenworth.

Great job by the FBI on this one.