How can Army Fires compete with Russian Fires?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 11:42:05 -0500

We have known hardware deficiencies (specifically artillery range), is there strategy to overcome this? In a direct Peer/Near Peer fight, is US Artillery worth anything?

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Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Dec 16 at 2021 11:55 AM

Col Joseph Lenertz — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 11:55:50 -0500

The US Army, by itself, cannot compete with the Russian Army, Navy, Air Force, and Missile forces. The good news is, we fight as a joint force, and up until recently, we've enjoyed air superiority against our adversaries. This enables very long-range fires from USAF bombers and fighters, and Naval aviation and cruise missiles. Today, especially against peer adversaries, we are not so sure we have the quality and quantity of air needed to ensure (theater-wide) air superiority. So our plans need to be more flexible and focused...to create the local areas of air superiority where the commander's priorities are highest.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 16 at 2021 12:39 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 12:39:31 -0500

Russia prioritizes range over accuracy whereas we prioritize accuracy over range. Would you rather scare someone far away but be inaccurate or scare someone closer knowing you won’t miss?

Response by MSG Thomas Currie made Dec 16 at 2021 2:40 PM

MSG Thomas Currie — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:40:53 -0500

In any peer-to-peer or near peer battle, artillery is simply the lowest level of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Given the speed and accuracy of counter-battery fires, the purpose of each side's artillery is to ensure that the other side won't use their artillery unless the target is worth losing the artillery unit involved.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Dec 16 at 2021 11:29 PM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:29:55 -0500

I'm pretty sure they know already so unless someone started posting classified phots and what not I think we're safe. After all they had observers (sometimes with the enemy side) at every war we've had since WW2.
We use a Combined Arms approach. Until the battle kicks off against Russia we won't know all that much about what's the comparison.

Response by SMSgt Bob W. made Dec 17 at 2021 1:02 AM

SMSgt Bob W. — Fri, 17 Dec 2021 01:02:34 -0500

All weapons system have deficiencies. Some are corrected with modifications, others with proper training, and still others with total replacement. So, remember, also, when "practicing" on the range some of the ordinance are for training use only, thus the outcome may not be what you expect. Col. Joe below has some good comments.

Response by SSG Watis Ekthuvapranee made Dec 17 at 2021 11:06 AM

SSG Watis Ekthuvapranee — Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:06:07 -0500

Sorry, I can't disclose this information. I will have to kill you. But, on a serious matter, let's not start shooting just yet. Let politicians do their job first. We have just been in a war since 9/11/2001. We need a break. Remember that war never benefits any nation (The Art of War, Sun Tzu). Look at NASA funding, where do you think it has gone to?