How can I end harassing behavior from my Plt Sgt (attempted fraternization)? Is there any specific Army regulation or guidance?

SPC Tiffany Ivanov — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 13:49:00 -0400

My PLT SGT is making my life hell. He is overly familiar, inept in every way, has zero respect for boundaries. He
msgs me to discuss his marital issues, sends long voice messages asking for advice on weekends. He's an E6. I'm a SPC(P). Ive reported him and told him to stop. Ive explained professionalism. Nothing is done. Army specifics I can use to put an end to this once and for all?

Response by SGT Jim Arnold made Oct 3 at 2017 1:56 PM

SGT Jim Arnold — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 13:56:41 -0400

wow, I thought this was a done deal way back in the late 80's early 90's with EEO, and sexual harassment counseling

Response by SPC Tiffany Ivanov made Oct 3 at 2017 2:02 PM

SPC Tiffany Ivanov — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:02:23 -0400

He blames his lack of professionalism and inability to complete any tasks on his ADHD. A poor excuse at best. He stands at my desk quoting movies and laughing loudly then asking if I'm even listening. I now his marriage is shit but I don't care. He has no friends and I don't care. We aren't friends.

He is so desperate for understanding that he has forced a fictitious friendship. I don't care that his idol is Jim Carrey from Liar Liar. If I'm getting long messages at 2200 when I'm home with my family or on weekends then i need it to be work info. This has become toxic and hostile. I enjoy working. I like going to the field. I like training. I like being busy. And now i dread going to work. Top was moving him into supply but days later he told me that refused to do it.....because he might miss something going on out here. I run the TNG and Orderly Room and he wants to know everything all the time. Personal shit he doesn't need to know. He is absolutely unprofessional in every conceivable way and he has been reported several times. He is trying to extend his tour again but if not, he PCSs in January. I won't last that long without losing rank. I can no longer maintain my bearing. If losing my shit on him did Nothing, and believe me he is absolutely clueless that what he is doing is insane, and reporting to my 1SG hasn't changed his behavior, what is my next step? He is convinced we are best friends no matter how many times I've told him professionalism professionalism professionalism! He has the memory of a ferret and can't complete the simplest of tasks. He is also the biggest narcissist I have ever had the misfortune to meet. I can't do this anymore. Square me away PLEASE before I shred my family care plan and square up with him or pull a Half Baked exit seen.

Response by SPC Tiffany Ivanov made Oct 3 at 2017 2:03 PM

SPC Tiffany Ivanov — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:03:48 -0400

This guy is next level. Seriously. It isn't sexual but it is harassment. He just oozes desperation for friends....i just want to work.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2017 2:09 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:09:04 -0400

If you have reported these acts to your Company Chain of Command and nothing has been done, take this up with your BN EO/EEO/SHARP reps.

Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Oct 3 at 2017 2:09 PM

Col Joseph Lenertz — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:09:51 -0400

First, make sure you have clearly and bluntly told your PLT SGT you find his behavior unacceptable and you will not tolerate it. Retain the voicemails and any other off-duty, non-duty related conversations he has had with you. Document the events objectively, and stay on topic (if his shoes aren't shiny or his leadership skills are lacking, that's not relevant right now...focus on any harassment or inappropriate conversations or actions). Write down memo-for-records with dates and times. Next, find the sexual harassment representatives on post and bring your documentation. You have the power to stop this. Your command chain has a responsibility to protect you all the way to the top, and they will.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2017 2:16 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:16:43 -0400

This is very alarming. If a person exhibits reckless behavior like this you really don't know where it may lead. He sounds like he sees you as something of interest or believes he has some type of relationship. If he comes to the point where he feels rejected you don't know what he may do. You can't be rational with an irrational person. I would refer this to a SHARP rep or just open door this all the way up the BN CSM.

Response by SPC Tiffany Ivanov made Oct 3 at 2017 2:26 PM

SPC Tiffany Ivanov — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:26:29 -0400

I don't want to being down the wrath of God. I want just enough to happen that it stops and he realizes that this is unacceptable. Just enough so that he can see that this is not a friendship, it is a workplace comradery that does not invite personalization. I'm all for laughing and joking. The day goes faster and it builds cohesion. But never do I forget my place within that structure. They are all my NCOs not my buddies. We shouldn't have to be silent and solemn robots to maintain that respectful boundary.

Response by LT Brad McInnis made Oct 3 at 2017 2:30 PM

LT Brad McInnis — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:30:34 -0400

Document everything, save all evidence. I had an incident when I was a supposedly seasoned Division Officer (platoon Leader). I had a junior sailor that was being beat up by his Chief (NCO) on an almost daily basis. Unfortunately, the Chief was very slippery as well, and hid a bunch of stuff from me. When the sailor finally came to me, I came down like holy hell on the Chief, had him immediately transferred off the ship. My point in this is that when you collect all the evidence, have given him fair warning, go up the Chain. If he is as slippery as you say ( and I believe you BTW), the officers farther up the chain probably are being swayed by what he says. Take it to them, and tell them that you want something done immediately, and if not you will go to the EO folks. I would frame the conversation something like " This has been going on for awhile, should I take it to the EO Officer?" If you tell them that if they don't do anything you will take it to the EO Officer, it won't give them a chance to deal with it. Guarantee you that no officer wants to deal with an EO case (I have had a number of them). Best of luck and really sorry that this is happening in today's military...

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Oct 3 at 2017 2:47 PM

CSM Richard StCyr — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:47:14 -0400

Since you reported him to the CoC and nothing has been done, or if you are uncomfortable with that or no change has happened, contact your EO/EEO or SHARP representative they will fifure out which realm is most appropriate . We used to crush nuts over this type of behavior. Save all the Msgs and texts to help substantiate your issues.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2017 2:49 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:49:57 -0400

SPC Tiffany Ivanov I assume that you are you carefully documenting each occurrence. Are there any witnesses to these event? No one should be allowed to get away with this behavior. Continue up the chain of command. Best wishes on an end to this harassment!

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Oct 3 at 2017 3:37 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:37:36 -0400

SPC Tiffany Ivanov "How can I end harassing behavior from my Plt Sgt (attempted fraternization)? Is there any specific Army regulation or guidance?"

The guidance is simple, if not pleasant.

Document your request to the NCO to STOP now. Telling him you desire no conversation that is not specifically job related. You do not want general advice or mentoring of any kind at this time. Thanks, but no thanks. Thats written and given to him with a witness that can attest to what is in the letter.
Or by email but include a phrase that will make him want to respond, which proves he read it.
That is a one shot deal..if anything happens after that your not comfortable with then immediately use the Open door policy to the commander with Bn or BDE SHARP rep present .. NO ONE ON ONE conversations.
Take the high road, "Im not mad, and not even positive its being done with malice, but it is making me uncomfortable.

I might even suggest at the same time you give the NCO notice to stop.. you go to the commander and tell him (her) your not ready to give him a name, but you are saying there is an issue your trying to resolve at the lowest level..if it does not work, you will be coming to him immediately.

It does two things.... One, if you have to go back to the CDR, it will not be the "1st time" you have brought it up.
It also will put the CDR on notice, if he is not familiar with the rules, process, regulations for handling a SHARP complaint, he better get educated NOW, before you come back.

You might get pressured to give a name immediately, but that is a choice you can make.... Saying, you want to make sure it is what you are perceiving, and not a mistake before you get others involved should be looked on favorable ...but some leaders (most) have a high internal instinct to "know" as much as possible about something they are or will be dealing with..

Response by CPT Joseph K Murdock made Oct 3 at 2017 3:43 PM

CPT Joseph K Murdock — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:43:44 -0400

Emails make great evidence. You can go unofficially or officially. Get with your EO Rep to see the lay of the land. I am writing this as a witness to an E-8 get booted out of the Army for the same reasons. Print those emails as evidence.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Oct 3 at 2017 3:50 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:50:14 -0400

"CPT Joseph K Murdock
Posted 1 m ago
Emails make great evidence."
an email responded to makes good evidence, but otherwise its one way conversation.... It can be proven it was sent, but not read by the intended recipient baring computer tech stuff anyway.

But a "Please stop now" email that includes an "safe question" the reader is sure to respond to, now you have the return answer email that proves the intended recipient received, and read the email.

"PSG, please stop the harassment now, thanks, Im sure you don't mean anything by it, but it make me uncomfortable. Oh and is PT in full uniform tomorrow morning or just shorts and short?"

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2017 10:51 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 22:51:56 -0400

First step - direct interaction. You already stated this hasn't worked.
Second step - 1SG/Commander.
Third step - SHARP.

If every step on that list fails you, then go higher. Open door policies allow approach to Battalion and Brigade Commanders and if ALL ELSE fails (command/SHARP) - approach IG.

Ensure you document everything that occurs. Keep a log with date/time stamps and be as descriptive as possible. It also helps if there are witnesses to the behavior. Save all voicemails, emails, and text messages as well. These will turn it from a "he said/she said" to "here's proof this guy is a creeper."

Good luck.

Response by AA Joseph Moody made Oct 3 at 2017 11:53 PM

AA Joseph Moody — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 23:53:34 -0400

First, document everything and then make a copy of those documents, and no matter what, you do not give anyone the original documentation.

Next, no matter what you need to keep your composure, make sure you take the high road and this is because you need to keep anyone from thinking that you in any shape way or form are doing this to be vindictive.

You may also want to find out what he has been saying about you, anytime you deal with anyone narcissistic in a leadership position, there is the concern of them slandering their subordinates and tossing them under the bus.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Oct 4 at 2017 9:50 AM

MSG Dan Castaneda — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 09:50:20 -0400

Is he on rally point? We'll take care of him for you.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2017 12:05 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:05:37 -0400

he is being bully....fraternization is a no no....you might need to call career center and request a change of duty since the chain of command is not doing anything about it....he is trying to force to have a relationship...........dont do it...no matter what change your duty station.............oh stay away from Fort Hood

Response by Maj Mike Sciales made Oct 4 at 2017 12:39 PM

Maj Mike Sciales — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:39:59 -0400

Take screen shots of all those messages and seek out any other soldiers that might have observed some of the behaviors you complain about or someone you might have first gone to about the problem who can support your version. Since he's a Platoon Sergeant go to your First Sergeant and explain everything, show him your screen shots and ask for intervention which should involve moving to another platoon and a counseling on Army Standards -- see my link on sexual harassment. If for some incredible reason Top is uninterested/unresponsive you can go to the Chaplain, the IG, or the JAG . You could, if this was not resolved after all that (but my sense is it will be fixed after you chat with your F/Sgt) you can always call US Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) who is a champion for killing that sort of behavior.

The US DoD committed to equal opportunity and treatment in 1972 (I was on active then) so many generations of soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines have come up in a system that says they won't tolerate sexual harassment, but there are always "those guys" who just never get it until you beat them over the head with a metaphorical 2x6. Bottom Line: We didn't hire you to take a load of crap for serving your country. As an officer I'd be on that guy like a ton of bricks because his boorish behavior, while scintillating for him, detracts from military readiness and unit cohesion. Good Luck. Please keep us posted.
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Response by Maj Mike Sciales made Oct 4 at 2017 12:52 PM

Maj Mike Sciales — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:52:50 -0400

I forgot to ask, "is he married?" If "yes" then ask if he'd mind if you included his wife in the text conversation as a way to help them deal with the troubles in their marriage.

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Oct 4 at 2017 1:09 PM

SFC Jim Ruether — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:09:06 -0400

This is wrong on so many levels and this person sounds like a pattern abuser and has probably done this many times before. I would definitely save any text messages he has sent you and or the audio messages too. This will be helpful not only in bringing this person to justice but also in establishing your credibility in the action too! Sad to say sometimes the accused(PLT SGT) may have more rights than you the victim. I certainly would take this straight to the Sexual Harassment Officer or NCO in your unit. I think they call them the SHARP NCO( Sexual Harassment/Assault Response and Prevention (SHARP). They can guide you through the process to be rid of this problem NCO. Good Luck SPC Ivanov. Please let us know how this works out too. Others in your situation, and believe me there are others need to know there is a process for getting this type of harassment to stop.

Response by SGT Christopher Hayden made Oct 4 at 2017 1:14 PM

SGT Christopher Hayden — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:14:55 -0400

I'd be curious to know what the outcome of this situation is. If it's just a "verbal counseling" from the 1SG, I don't really see him stopping for long. Maybe with you, but what about others he may or may not be doing the same thing to?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2017 2:03 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 14:03:23 -0400

This is the very thing that we go over in SHARP every year.

Who did you report it to? Did you talk to EO? A SARC or VA? You can report to them if you think your command isn't doing anything about it or haven't let you know that it was resolved. They don't have to tell you if he received punishment or not.

If I felt my command wasn't doing anything I'd go to EO or SHARP. Probably EO for this one. Then they will take it from there.

Response by SFC Joseph James made Oct 4 at 2017 4:28 PM

SFC Joseph James — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:28:22 -0400

I agree with many of the comments here. Professionalism is his responsibility but care of the Soldier should be his number 1 priority. Keep track of everything that he is doing that is harassing. Dates, times, locations, even witnesses. You are in control. Also, get you next level supervisor involved. A good squad leader will defend their Soldier. Even to us E7's! Good luck and don't take shit!

Response by SFC Francisco Rosario made Oct 4 at 2017 4:31 PM

SFC Francisco Rosario — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:31:39 -0400

I think you should read AR 600-20, Army Command Policy. It has the EO regs and other bits of information.

Response by GySgt Pete McConnell made Oct 4 at 2017 4:54 PM

GySgt Pete McConnell — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:54:32 -0400

SPC Ivanov,
SSg. Livingston is dead on! EO is taken seriously in the military. I would encourage a visit to sit down with your EO rep.

Response by PO3 Christopher Jonah Nelson made Oct 4 at 2017 4:57 PM

PO3 Christopher Jonah Nelson — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:57:48 -0400

If you have already reported him to the EEOC and your chain of command without result, it is your DUTY to request...whatever is the equivalent of Captain's Mast - a formal hearing with your Colonel. If that doesn't help, your next step is the EEOC office maintained by the General who is responsible for your command.

Make SURE that you have hard evidence and especially make sure that you do NOT skip any steps, especially the command EEOC and your own chain of command (above the E6).

Response by LTC John Shaw made Oct 4 at 2017 5:03 PM

LTC John Shaw — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 17:03:04 -0400

SPC Tiffany Ivanov Go directly to your SHARP, you are being sexually harassed. Tell your SHARP you want the activity to stop immediately. I would also ask for the Judge Advocate and request a Temporary Restraining order against your platoon sgt. He should be Transferred to another company and he should start his professional life over.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2017 5:33 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 17:33:04 -0400

Uh-oh, based on what you are saying, it sounds like he is in the fast lane to becoming a new SPC and you will be the SGT. He will soon be coming to you with all these problems as your subordinate.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2017 8:22 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 20:22:33 -0400

I hate to suggest this - but request a transfer to another unit or another assignment.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2017 9:03 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 21:03:09 -0400

IG complaint

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 4 at 2017 9:14 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 21:14:55 -0400

Documentation, documentation, and if you think it's enough keep getting more. The more evidence you have against the NCO the better chances you have of having the higher ups take notice of his behavior.

If he is interrupting you while you are doing your job, then tell him, excuse Sgt. Blah Blah but as you can see I am quite busy with this heavy work load so I do not have time to chit chat today. This is a polite way of dismissing him and getting yourself away from him. If he refuses to leave then excuse yourself and go to the women's restroom and call your 1st Sergeant and let him know where you are at and let him know that this NCO is harassing you again.

Response by SGT Eric Hawkins made Oct 4 at 2017 11:46 PM

SGT Eric Hawkins — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 23:46:01 -0400

SPC Ivanov, if you have indeed informed this soldier that he is out of line with respect to his conduct towards you (and probably other female personnel), your first stop should be his NCOIC. If that doesn't work, i'm sure that a trip to the CSM would yield results. As a "Non-Commission Officer," this soldier should ALREADY know these boundaries and never have crossed them over. Until you get this resolved and one of you are reassigned, you should limit your conversations with this soldier to those of military matters ONLY. If it doesn't concern work put a stop to the conversation immediately. I've been out for a while. So, things have changed, I'm sure. But, what it means to be a NCO will always remain the same.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 5 at 2017 1:32 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 13:32:33 -0400

Specialist, Col Lenertz advice is on point. The level and type of inappropriate behavior is also covered under the UCMJ. As enlisted personnel we are made very clear of certain punitive articles of the UCMJ and MCM. Read Article 128 Assault and Assault with intent to sexually gratify if groping is an issue. I am certain you are also aware of Article 91 and Article 92 but I doubt Article 93 has been explained in full. It is Maltreatment of a subordinate. Make the unwanted advances clearly and articulately. After 28 years as a Military Police Officer and Criminal Investigator I lost faith in certain offices on bases/posts. Once any threat of reprisal or quid pro quote is made by this NCO, do NOT be afraid to use your Chain of Command starting with your XO or Sgt Major. the 1st Sgt may be too close to be objective. I don't know your unit but I will take liberty with a WAG. If there is no remedy and ANY threat exists. Go directly to the Provost Martials Office. I've worked with my Army peers and they are good. Any leaders who is married but acts in this manner should not fill a position as a Non Commissioned Officer. They are not a leader, they are a predator and I've investigated too many identical situations that ended in a sexual assault or rape investigation. Stay professional, make no threats, do your job but make damn sure you keep distance and a battle buddy close by. Also, in your documentation, have a witness who will only attest to the date and time you prepared the memorandum. They may not need to know the full content of the memo but it is more credible with military justice. Good luck Soldier

Response by SN Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 5 at 2017 2:08 PM

SN Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 14:08:37 -0400

As we were taught back in the day, "document" and then present it up the chain.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 5 at 2017 2:20 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 14:20:47 -0400

If you an SPC or even a Private in the Military in this time and age get on Rally Point on how to deal with sexual harassment in the military something is lacking. There is annual Sexual harassment training and it could have been addressed then as coincidence... You maybe haven't paid attention or something that started well then when astray very fast before you could get a handle on it... Going to be a future leader how can you be a beacon of light to those who will follow you one day. I don't want to beat down a victim but I feel someone is not telling the full story.

Response by SrA Vern Cox made Oct 5 at 2017 2:27 PM

SrA Vern Cox — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 14:27:23 -0400

'No' means "NO" especially in the Military. Yes, that what Execs and IGs are for.

Response by CW4 Brian Haas made Oct 5 at 2017 3:09 PM

CW4 Brian Haas — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 15:09:49 -0400

I’d let the 1SG know that you’re going to use the CSM’s open door policy. And take him everything you have documenting it. If your O side of the house know and isnt doing anything, Id let the battalion commander know, too.

Response by SSG James N. made Oct 6 at 2017 6:28 PM

SSG James N. — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 18:28:30 -0400

SHARP his ass, and take all your evidence upchain beyond your last reported chain. If your CO swept it, go to the BNCO, if that light col sweeps it, go straight to your div Smaj and dump that shit on his desk and let him/her know what is going on. If all else fails, find a likeable guy like me who won't mind finding that POS outside the gate and giving him a good ass beating and a warning

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2017 10:10 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:10:27 -0400

IG ?? your CO ?? EO any one of them should help you. Other wise give me his POC and ill square him away !!!

Response by SPC Tiffany Ivanov made Oct 9 at 2017 2:58 PM

SPC Tiffany Ivanov — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 14:58:41 -0400

UPDATE: I read all of the advice and comments. I want to thank all of you for taking the time to read and respond.

I got everything together and went to my 1SG. After reading and hearing some of things my PSG said, he assures me he will take care of it. I can't accurately describe his reaction but so far, whatever he did say, is working. No more messaging me or talking to me about his personal life. He hasn't stopped by my desk for chit chat and if he's still eavesdropping he isn't commenting or making it obvious. Dare I say that he actually did a little work the next day?!

Hopefully it sticks....

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2017 10:20 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:20:24 -0400

do you think i really care for the thumbs down seriously i have notice all of you officer are really snobs looks down on other...

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2017 10:24 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:24:10 -0400

you have the evidence report the SSG...and if they dont do anything about it then you need to transfer to another unit out the area that you are in

Response by SGT Mark Sullivan made Oct 10 at 2017 12:51 AM

SGT Mark Sullivan — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:51:31 -0400

If memory serves, the fact that your Plt Sgt, is doing this you do have the right to bypass him, and possibly bring this up to your Plt Ldr. Make sure you have all of your proof, messages, etc... If that fails, you can bring this up higher. Here is Chapter 7 AR 600-20, which covers Sexual Harassment, pay attention to section 7-7. I hope this helps.
http://www.preventsexualassault.army.mil/files/r600_20_chapter7.pdf

r600_20_chapter7.pdf

Response by PFC Robert Rice made Oct 10 at 2017 2:00 PM

PFC Robert Rice — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:00:11 -0400

No one should have to put up with that kind of behavior. Not only is it unprofessional it is demeaning. Go talk to your base legal team if your chain of command will not listen to you. They can give you better ideas on how to handle this situation.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2017 10:08 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 22:08:14 -0500

SHARP

Response by MSG Johnathan Mathes made Feb 14 at 2018 10:15 AM

MSG Johnathan Mathes — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:15:39 -0500

Put it all down on paper .. general counsel omg form have him sign it..Go to the 1sg of the unit... if that doesn’t work.. then ask to see the CSM under the open door policy... if there isn’t any changes made... then and only then Pop out to the sharp/ig guys

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 11:22 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:22:53 -0500

Go immediately to your SARC or unit level SHARP representsative. They can aid you and also get your commander's support. Every unit has a SHARP program.

Response by CPL Michael Paul made Feb 14 at 2018 11:37 AM

CPL Michael Paul — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:37:24 -0500

Easy way to stop this from happening is block his dam number and his email address problem solved

Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Feb 14 at 2018 11:48 AM

SSG Carlos Madden — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:48:26 -0500

SPC Tiffany Ivanov I know this is older now but do you have any updates? Hope the input you got here was helpful and this was resolved.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 12:43 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 12:43:53 -0500

I see this was 4 months ago; don't know why it only now shows up in my feed. Anyway, I hope you were able to arrive at some kind of solution to this issue. Sounds like this guy is a real piece of work. There was a GO recently who was doing the same stuff, and he had the book thrown at him.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 1:05 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:05:21 -0500

You have done the first two steps so your bases are covered. Next report him to SHARP and the IG. If your chain has done nothing they deserve to be fried on this one. He is an NCO and knows better.

Response by SFC Tom Kuleck made Feb 14 at 2018 1:14 PM

SFC Tom Kuleck — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:14:10 -0500

It sounds as though you may also have a ‘Command Issue’ also. Zero tolerance for this type of behavior is a must. Totally agree with Col. Lennertz. Start making and keeping ‘memos for record’. You also need to report incidents as they occur. Do not make the mistake of ‘just blowing it off’. If not handled appropriately at the company level don’t ever be afraid to take it higher. BUT...do not jump the chain of command. Give each the opportunity to respond in a timely manner.

Response by SSG Greg Cueto made Feb 14 at 2018 1:54 PM

SSG Greg Cueto — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:54:50 -0500

Reportit as harassment to the base military police, your Battalion SHARP rep, and I G all at the same time. Block out an entire afternoon. You can pull a 4856 off of the internet and copy all of your text messages or take pictures of them. You can record all the voicemails. As long as you turn them all over to the MP's as evidence.

Response by SPC Joseph B. Malki made Feb 14 at 2018 2:09 PM

SPC Joseph B. Malki — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:09:15 -0500

We all know there is a good-ol boy club and yes when women are in power - a good-ol girl club. Sometimes the chain of command is so fearful of blow-back they become infected with a self-preservation paralysis. I suggest talking to the Chaplain and back-up every meeting with your chain of command with a letter covering what was discussed and what remedies were promised. If all else fails - its IG time.

Response by SFC Charles Kauffman made Feb 14 at 2018 2:26 PM

SFC Charles Kauffman — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:26:06 -0500

If you've reported him to your 1SG, and it's still happening, your 1SG is a piece of shit, too.

Response by SN Greg Wright made Feb 14 at 2018 2:30 PM

SN Greg Wright — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:30:29 -0500

SPC Tiffany Ivanov How did this turn out?

Response by SPC Manuel Hager made Feb 14 at 2018 3:12 PM

SPC Manuel Hager — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:12:18 -0500

Go to IG

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 3:13 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:13:05 -0500

You should contact your unit's SHARP representative, and also the MSC Victim Advocate.

Response by Sgt Peter Schlesiona made Feb 14 at 2018 3:13 PM

Sgt Peter Schlesiona — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:13:42 -0500

From what the SPC has laid out, I suspect this platoon sergeant has larger, deeper issues and, as one commenter already said, it's more than a little alarming how much energy he's investing in one person. There does not seem to be any sexual harassment in what he's doing, but he's fixated on her and seems to crave her validation. My suggestion to bed would be to follow the "keep notes" advice she's gotten and works through the chain of command but perhaps also pay a visit to the medical (psych) staff. The guy may not quite be one can short of a six-pack yet, but he may be heading there.

Response by PO2 Bronwen Taylor Shaffner made Feb 14 at 2018 3:22 PM

PO2 Bronwen Taylor Shaffner — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:22:46 -0500

I’d email him asking him to stop CC your CO BCC your CO’s supervisor. It should stop.

Response by SGM Donald Vance made Feb 14 at 2018 3:48 PM

SGM Donald Vance — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:48:41 -0500

If your Chain of command does nothing, go to the IG, I show them the texts, that should be enough to get his sorry ass relieved! SGM (Ret)

Response by CPL Earl Kochis made Feb 14 at 2018 3:57 PM

CPL Earl Kochis — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:57:54 -0500

Personally I would take this to your division sexual harassment rep

Response by SP5 Franklin Welfl made Feb 14 at 2018 3:58 PM

SP5 Franklin Welfl — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:58:52 -0500

This is unacceptable, taking the issue to your Bn chain of command is a high step but necessary. Hopefully and I pray its resolved for you. I've never experienced this I was fortunate moons ago to serve under some dedicated Professionals NCO and Commisioned. I will caution that in the civilian side there are some supervisors who are this way unfortunately and cause a great deal of problems in the work place and out. Don't ever under any circumstances try to leave your Military values you've learned even if you are threatened. I did that until recently (5yrs ago) I When your Enlistment is complete should you decide to leave the Military and pursue other opportunities don't forget that you're a Soldier and the words Duty Honor and Country. I've been out many moons but I still live by those words . God Bless

Response by CWO4 Frank Williams made Feb 14 at 2018 4:06 PM

CWO4 Frank Williams — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:06:14 -0500

Unprofessional behavior. Document and report.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 4:11 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:11:16 -0500

Grab another NCO whom you are comfortable with and go to the 1 SG (First Sergeant). He should report it to his CO (Company Commander). That would be the next step. If that doesn't have any effect and you know the CO is aware go to the Sergeant Major with a sex harassment or EEO Rep.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 4:23 PM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:23:13 -0500

The COC also needs to be listed, such as, I initially reported here in this date. That did not stop the problems. I then reported here on this date, that did not stop the problems. ETC

Response by 1SG Christopher Chesley made Feb 14 at 2018 5:19 PM

1SG Christopher Chesley — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:19:26 -0500

As a retired First Sergeant I can tell you the way to fix a f*****-up E6 is go see his first sergeant or his sergeant major

Response by SSG Brent Reck made Feb 14 at 2018 6:09 PM

SSG Brent Reck — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:09:27 -0500

He is supposed to be a leader, Be a leader! It’s just that simple.

Response by PFC John Villarreal made Feb 14 at 2018 6:51 PM

PFC John Villarreal — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:51:57 -0500

Normally, I have a smart ass comment. I’m gonna be serious. It ain’t stopping with him. Your 1st Sgt has and open door policy, go to him. This E6 is poor leadership material.

Response by SSG Bob Featherstone made Feb 14 at 2018 7:47 PM

SSG Bob Featherstone — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:47:57 -0500

Have you tried talking to your Bn EO rep

Response by MGySgt Ronald Warfield made Feb 14 at 2018 10:58 PM

MGySgt Ronald Warfield — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:58:13 -0500

If your immediate command won't do anything request to see higher command. Make sure to keep texts and any other physical evidence. In the marines we called it requesting mast.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 11:02 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:02:46 -0500

Since you already report having taken the direct route. Go over his head and see 1SG and so on until it gets resolved. He very well could be violating AR 600-20 Army Command Policy in particular paragraph 4-14 covers fraternization. Not for me to judge whether or not he is, but seems likely with the details you have provided. I wouldn't say go the SHARP route with the info we have available it doesn't appear to be sexual in nature but if it is that's a different answer completely. If it is go to your units Victim Advocate and discuss it I wouldn't post it that could limit options later. Just my 2 cents.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2018 11:16 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:16:06 -0500

I hate to be blunt.
But utilize your NCO Support chain, COC EO SHARP IG Congressional on and on.

The problem I've seen over and over again if Soldiers afraid to speak out for fear of reprisal. Which is a real concern.

But the truth of the matter is it is not about you.

That's right. I said it is not about you.
Its not fair I know.
But hear me out, there is a bigger picture.

Its about the Soldiers the unit and the country after he/she is done attacking you. Unchecked the behavior will manifest and spread like cancer. Others will see that it is ok to do this behavior. Because there is no accountability. The offender will feel safe to continue and that may lead to sexual assault. Or worse.

So what can you do.
Find out if anyone else is experiencing the same issue, or has anyone witnessed these acts. Gather them for Sworn Statements for unity and support. Also document everything. save those text. make a spreadsheet to track incidents. Or email summaries to yourself on your private email to document as it happens, and always have it for future reference.

I know this must be very hard for you but that's where Personal Courage comes into play.
Also ....Stay professional, but also be firm. "SSG, Please do not text me with your personnel issues. I am your subordinate."
Do not erupt and say something that might be used against you in the future.

oh yeah. Here's the reference you were looking for. it goes a little way back but it is where all rules and regulations stem from.....

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

I am truly sorry that this is happening to you. It should not. but I know it does. Keep strong and don't quit.

MSG Bo

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 1:07 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 01:07:23 -0500

1SG should square him away.

Response by PO2 Mike Ward made Feb 15 at 2018 5:40 AM

PO2 Mike Ward — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 05:40:22 -0500

Oh MY GOD!!! What has happened to our Military? Suck it up you pansy ass

Response by SFC William Brown made Feb 15 at 2018 7:21 AM

SFC William Brown — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:21:27 -0500

I assume you’re a female Soldier? If so, then you have to first - don’t hold anything back, and with a witness (preferably an NCO) present and in a professional environment tell him straight up that you insist he stop his unprofessional behavior or you will report him all the up the chain (I assume you’ve already done so). If he persists (and he probably will, because predators always do), and assume that he will, never allow yourself to go anywhere by yourself and always, always check your six. Don’t waste anytime reporting his behavior, and by all means open door policy his ass up the chain until you get a positive result. In the end, you may or may not look like the bad guy in the eyes of some and depending on the outcome you might have to request to be moved out of that environment - it’s always at the commanders discretion, but so what! Protect yourself! And be a professional and you will be fine.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 8:27 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:27:05 -0500

Luck of the draw here. I am an Actuve Duty Warrant Officer and I’m a VA and Nova certified SHARP rep. Feel free to PM me with concerns and we can go from there.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 9:26 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:26:45 -0500

Sharp complaint formal

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 9:58 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:58:17 -0500

I feel as someone who is going to be an nco, you should be able to Google this answer. Of course there are regulations that govern fraternization. You could go to IG when the CoC fails to address it.

Response by SFC Mark Klaers made Feb 15 at 2018 10:06 AM

SFC Mark Klaers — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 10:06:18 -0500

Where is your squad leader? That corporal or sergeant needs to be at the forefront here! I also want to know what's up with PL. These are the people that are letting you down.

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 10:32 AM

Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 10:32:21 -0500

I am sorry this is happening to you, there is nothing worse than having an unwanted "friendship" from a superior that is making you uncomfortable. Maybe recommend that he see a life coach, therapist or someone better equip to handle his personal issues

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 10:56 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 10:56:02 -0500

I have a feeling that he will be investigated soon that is if he has not already been.

Response by CPL Kevin Corbin made Feb 15 at 2018 11:18 AM

CPL Kevin Corbin — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:18:32 -0500

Just make sure your closet doesn't have any skeletons! Like you went to him for advise about love life

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 11:52 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:52:23 -0500

Please do something about this ASAP. I heard of similar situations turn very bad very fast. You have the power ..... use it to protect you

Response by SFC Paul R Ecker made Feb 15 at 2018 12:01 PM

SFC Paul R Ecker — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:01:19 -0500

Use the chain of command, DOCUMENT EVERY encounter, file a report with 1st Sgt,Plt Lt, go to Bn. HQ file a written report, if this doesn’t work call your congressman,
DO NOT inform this NCO of your intentions, it will give him time to prepare a defensive move, you need witnesses that will help you.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 1:13 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:13:16 -0500

Have your TL or SL bring the issue up to the LT and if nothing is done bring it up to the 1SG, if the behavior still continues bring it up to the CO. This is very alarming, and someone needs to get fired. I hope you’ve exhausted your resources before putting the situation on this platform.

Response by Sgt Robert J. Fruge' made Feb 15 at 2018 1:41 PM

Sgt Robert J. Fruge' — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:41:33 -0500

Tell the ASS HOLE you will press charges with the Army and the local police if this does not stop.

Response by CW3 Jeff Held made Feb 15 at 2018 1:52 PM

CW3 Jeff Held — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:52:20 -0500

Just wanted to add that, in my opinion, it’s not “attempted”. He is clearly fraternizing - you may not be reciprocating but he is actively engaged. Now the legal or really technical folks may take issue with my take and try to split hairs.

I’m glad you found a resolution to this issue and that you remain free from his unwelcomed advances.

By the way, if anyone has witnessed his behavior you may want to consider getting a statement from them just to keep tucked away. That notion may have been broached in a previous comment but the point is that is could avoid a “he said she said” situation.

Best of luck.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 2:29 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:29:43 -0500

Let me take you on a little trip into the mind of depravity.
This individual thinks he knows you some. He thinks that you have paid him some heed and in the mind of someone who (may or may not) has marital problems, you serve as a surrogate for him to project upon. This is not probably a "real" attraction, but rather a way to vent his frustration and get some positive female response.
It is not normal, but it is not unusual either.
He needs some help, and perhaps your CoC can be of some service in this regard.

However...
He is all of the way wrong in having inappropriate conversations with you, particularly when you've requested that they cease. This is a violation of AR 600-20 at a minimum. He needs a come to Jesus with the 1SG (to start with), and leave you the heck out of his personal wreckage.
It is his CoC's job to get him sorted out.
You can best serve by informing the CoC of the issue, and performing your duties admirably and to the utmost of your ability.

Good luck, SPC Tiffany Ivanov. That is a tough situation to be in.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 3:47 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:47:43 -0500

Have you not had the ten thousand SHARP classes the rest of us hav

Response by SPC Richard Antosh made Feb 15 at 2018 4:23 PM

SPC Richard Antosh — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:23:56 -0500

Go to the battalion CSM, or commander it will stop.

Response by CSM Jeff Butler made Feb 15 at 2018 4:57 PM

CSM Jeff Butler — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:57:00 -0500

Use you chain of command !

Response by SCPO Ken Burt made Feb 15 at 2018 5:28 PM

SCPO Ken Burt — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:28:56 -0500

I would definitely take this up with your CSM that is what he/she is there for.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 5:30 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:30:50 -0500

SPC Tiffany Ivanov any updates?

Response by CPL David Thompson made Feb 15 at 2018 5:38 PM

CPL David Thompson — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:38:30 -0500

Moronic pog.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 6:15 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:15:19 -0500

Speak to your Battalion SARC, he's clearly not getting it and the unit level clearly isnt handling it.

Response by SGT Randall Smith made Feb 15 at 2018 6:26 PM

SGT Randall Smith — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:26:59 -0500

Contact the base I.G. This will come to a halt with one of you being transferred out

Response by SSG Matt LaFramboise made Feb 15 at 2018 6:43 PM

SSG Matt LaFramboise — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:43:32 -0500

Document it all. Keep it. Never give all of it to anyone. Write and send letters and copies of the evidence up the entire chain of command. After waiting one week do the same up their chain of command. After three levels do the same to a civilian elected official and Cc more chain of command

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 6:54 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:54:53 -0500

Are you serious! If your in the Military especially the Army we go through training to handle this type of situation. Sounds like fake news!

Response by SGT Nate Whitehead made Feb 15 at 2018 6:59 PM

SGT Nate Whitehead — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:59:13 -0500

Determine if the state you are in is a one party consent state, and if it is, wear an audio record ANYTIME you are around him. Take his calls on speaker phone and use said recorder.

Then run it up the chain. But be fully ready and prepared to walk it over to IG, open a congressional, or even call the local news.

You’ll have hard, irrefutable evidence. They fail to move on that, there is no excuse... fire for effect.

Also, never turn over your only copies of evidence. Might even have a friend out of reach of the military store copies for you.

Response by PO1 Terry Zech made Feb 15 at 2018 7:03 PM

PO1 Terry Zech — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:03:28 -0500

Request meeting with the CO or 1st LT. use your chain.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 7:21 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:21:59 -0500

Report it to IG if you command is doing nothing about the situation, however, ensure you have all your ducks in a row and cross your t's and dot your i's

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 7:29 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:29:05 -0500

SPC Ivanov, I see many telling you to use the direct approach to this issue. That is very well an option and I see it as a courtesy to the offender. But this is far from your only option. If you're not comfortable with doing it that way or tried that way already and failed then you can directly report his to anyone in your change of command or NCO Support channel. Bottom line is make sure its completely taken care of. So he doesn't leave you alone and move on to the next soldier.

Response by COL Spencer Burnette made Feb 15 at 2018 7:35 PM

COL Spencer Burnette — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:35:28 -0500

Make an Inspector General complaint. Go to your Battalion Commander and serk a redress of grievance. If that doesn't work continue up the chain, Brigade Cdr then Post/Division Commander

Response by SFC Rodney Parkin made Feb 15 at 2018 8:13 PM

SFC Rodney Parkin — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:13:43 -0500

He must be a jerk. Contact you chain of command or others working for him! Just watch yourself, if you want that next promotion!

Response by CSM David Draughn made Feb 15 at 2018 8:36 PM

CSM David Draughn — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:36:35 -0500

Time to us the chain-of-Command and adjust this person’s attitude. Sounds like an investigation is in the brewing. This NCO is way out of bounds.

Response by SPC Brian Lewis made Feb 15 at 2018 8:45 PM

SPC Brian Lewis — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:45:12 -0500

File IG complaint. Go to compliantIG rep. Probably same as you eo officer

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 9:09 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:09:34 -0500

Try the Chaplin if not use the open door policy. You can also go to the unit sharp officer

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 9:09 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:09:59 -0500

Quickly use your chain of command. Quickly is key. Let them know what is going on. Give them a chance to remove him. if they studder at all . Use the well this was more out of respect to your position i am going to the next step. keep going up until he is removed. also let Chaplin know now. Do not let chain of command cover this. can not be his first time doing this.

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Feb 15 at 2018 9:13 PM

MSG John Duchesneau — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:13:08 -0500

You need to report it to you chain of command. If they don't take it seriously go to the EEO officer for you unit. If that doesn't do any good - go to the IG. What ever you do - don't put up with it. The SSG is out of line and he needs to act like an NCO and not a horny teenager.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 9:20 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:20:47 -0500

How old are both of you. Sometimes people make rank fast and are not ready. He may feel comfortable with you because of that and presence. If he is asking for advice that's one thing. But if he is asking you for advice the smoking you like a cheap cigarette in front of others then he is wrong. There is nothing wrong with talking to your platoon about issues. It gets lonely at the top. Besides it's a good tool to learn about your platoon. But again if he wants to wear big boys clothes he needs to have himself, family, and career together. What does your squad leader say. Are all of you young and can't communicate clearly. Sounds like 1SG needs some NCOPD in that unit. Learn from this and take the good and bad and he a better leader. Learn how to play the game. This won't be the last time this happens.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 9:23 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:23:16 -0500

File an IG complaint.

Response by SFC Mark Biggs made Feb 15 at 2018 9:32 PM

SFC Mark Biggs — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:32:25 -0500

Use the Open Door policy and speak to your CSM. If still no results, go to your Colonel. If no results there, file a complaint with the Inspector General's office.

Response by SFC Killo Serafin made Feb 15 at 2018 9:55 PM

SFC Killo Serafin — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:55:45 -0500

Take it to your CO ! and if it doesn’t work ! talk to the SGTMAJOR.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 10:24 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 22:24:21 -0500

I dont believe EO or SHARP would be the answer from what was posted. Company command team, if nothing happens within a few days your Bn CSM im sure has an open door policy. Continue up your NCO support channel, I would bet it will be fixed at your Bn level.

Response by SFC Walter Cook made Feb 15 at 2018 10:32 PM

SFC Walter Cook — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 22:32:47 -0500

Simple IG

Response by SPC Stephanie Zody made Feb 15 at 2018 10:57 PM

SPC Stephanie Zody — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 22:57:30 -0500

Call the inspector general

Response by SSG Jonathan Sprague made Feb 15 at 2018 11:02 PM

SSG Jonathan Sprague — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 23:02:15 -0500

I once used big army IG to resolve an issues. Rather than complain, I simply told the Officer I talked to the situation and and asked her how she would resolve the issue and what I could do to resolve it.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 11:29 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 23:29:14 -0500

Do as the COL said. Do not talk to him alone. Have witnesses. If that is to hard simply go to your CoC and tell them that you need it to stop. I am a 26 year retired NCO then a Officer and have seem it ignored and taken care of. It comes down to you in the end. You have to not let this go. Remember there are SHARP posters explaining this in detail everywhere.

Response by Sgt Roy Hale made Feb 15 at 2018 11:33 PM

Sgt Roy Hale — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 23:33:07 -0500

There is no reason for you to have to put up with him. Start with jag

Response by SSG Jose M. Hernandezsanchez made Feb 16 at 2018 12:01 AM

SSG Jose M. Hernandezsanchez — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 00:01:26 -0500

SPC Ivanov,
Well, if you have reported this individual to your direct Chain of Command and nothing has changed, keep going up the ladder. You never know where this situation might lead to. I know sometimes we don't want to create a problem especially with allegations like this. But this is wrong, because the work environment has been damage in my opinion. I don't think is an unsafe work environment, but it is an uncomfortable one. I said sometimes we don't want to create problems because I have all daughters and had an issue with one with this type of problem so, she decided not to say anything. Your Chain of Command is there for a reason. I hope you had this taken care of.

Response by SFC Michael Crewse made Feb 16 at 2018 12:03 AM

SFC Michael Crewse — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 00:03:08 -0500

The fact that you are a specialist promotable and do not understand the regulations regarding army command policy make me very sad for today's troops. How about you is a special from moto taken upon yourself in do some research and find out what regulation he is Violating

Response by Cpl Justin Jackson made Feb 16 at 2018 12:47 AM

Cpl Justin Jackson — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 00:47:20 -0500

Inspector general if the command refuses or doesn't do anything.

Response by SGT David Nicholas made Feb 16 at 2018 1:05 AM

SGT David Nicholas — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 01:05:05 -0500

Keep going up the chain of command. If the company 1SG won't handle it I garuntee the BN CSM will!

Response by SPC Jason Moore made Feb 16 at 2018 6:17 AM

SPC Jason Moore — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 06:17:23 -0500

I hope this gets straightened out for you, you shouldn't have to work in a toxic work environment.

Response by PO1 Tom Johnson made Feb 16 at 2018 6:38 AM

PO1 Tom Johnson — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 06:38:42 -0500

You have been thoroughly trained on what to do just like every other service member.....stop posting this bullshit, stop playing the victim, get off your ass an take care of your business.

Response by SSgt Kevin Craig made Feb 16 at 2018 6:39 AM

SSgt Kevin Craig — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 06:39:45 -0500

What specifically about his wanting to discuss his marital issues with you makes you uncomfortable? Is he also hitting on you or anything along those lines, saying derogatory things, giving unneeded details of sexual nature? Just trying to gather more information.

Response by SPC Rick LaBonte made Feb 16 at 2018 9:01 AM

SPC Rick LaBonte — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:01:30 -0500

That’s crazy! And blatant stalking! A platoon sergeant should be familiar with the personnel below him/her, but not that familiar! Save all the voicemails, texts, etc and if you can’t get your chain of command to do anything I’d suggest going through the chaplain! Think about it, you may not be the only one he’s doing this to and this type of issue jeopardizes unit cohesion! You’re supposed to be able to trust your NCOs

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 11:18 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:18:38 -0500

SPC Tiffany Ivanov I hope everything is fine now and that the PSG has continued to leave you alone.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 12:06 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:06:27 -0500

AR 600-20 Fraternization chapter

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 12:07 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:07:21 -0500

Also read chapter 7 of that regulation in reference to sexual harassment.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 1:05 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:05:26 -0500

Dude grow up and go have a talk with him. If that doesn't work I don't know what to tell you. When did these types of incidents become problems in the Army?

Response by PO3 Wyatt Hensley made Feb 16 at 2018 1:35 PM

PO3 Wyatt Hensley — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:35:29 -0500

I’d say whip his ass.But obviously you have no balls

Response by PFC Jason Krejci made Feb 16 at 2018 1:44 PM

PFC Jason Krejci — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:44:29 -0500

I’m pretty sure they tell you exactly what to do in every sharp class you have ever taken. Sounds like your platoon needs another 3 hr class. I suggest you pay attention to this one .

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 3:49 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 15:49:48 -0500

Sharp complaint.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 4:47 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:47:59 -0500

SPC, is his behavior sexual in nature? Do you feel harassed in a sexual manner? Do you think he finds harassing you sexually gratifying? Has he/she touched you inappropriately withlut your consent? If so, then talk to your NOVA credentialed SHARP VA or SARC. If what I mentioned above is not the case, use your chain of command preferrably start with the one above your PSG and I am sure they can either involve EO or your CC can facilitate a 15-6. Hope this helps.

Response by SPC Jason Mast made Feb 16 at 2018 4:50 PM

SPC Jason Mast — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:50:13 -0500

Take it to your brigade commander. If that don't solve it go higher. Your immediate chain of command has obviously failed

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 5:44 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:44:25 -0500

Remember to always try to use your chain of command. There are plenty of resources such as EO, SHARP, IG, etc.

Response by SSG Jeff Miller made Feb 16 at 2018 6:01 PM

SSG Jeff Miller — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:01:39 -0500

This is so unacceptable that I can't even wrap my head around it. God bless you Specialist, and I sincerely hope someone in your chain of command steps up and deals with this POS!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 6:30 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:30:11 -0500

Why does your Platoon Sgt have your number.?Yes go through the motion of making a harassment a report. Dates ,times etc

Response by CW2 Gene Crawford made Feb 16 at 2018 6:30 PM

CW2 Gene Crawford — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:30:54 -0500

Use the chain of command until this is resolved ( open door policy for instance).

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 6:40 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:40:36 -0500

AR 600-20 p4-14 maybe...

Response by CWO4 Tim Hecht made Feb 16 at 2018 6:58 PM

CWO4 Tim Hecht — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:58:33 -0500

SPC Ivanov - what Colonel Lenertz and others have said - document it and report it as soon as you can!

Response by MSG John Hundahl made Feb 16 at 2018 7:16 PM

MSG John Hundahl — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 19:16:18 -0500

Go to your SGM.

Response by SSG Steven Cody made Feb 16 at 2018 7:22 PM

SSG Steven Cody — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 19:22:07 -0500

At your next Bn level SHARP class when the entire COC AND the civilians are present straight up say "my PSG does (fill in the blank). I've reported it to higher but nothing has been done. Is this behavior ok?" LOL, they'll be pissed but it'll be taken care of when people are embarrassed in front of the top brass. Hopefully it's right before their OERs are written up so it's fresh in their memories lol. Or, just make a complaint at the division level, or talk to a JAG officer and see what your options are. Whatever. Good luck.

Response by SFC Tereasa Menke made Feb 16 at 2018 7:43 PM

SFC Tereasa Menke — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 19:43:22 -0500

SFC (Ret) ... You need to contact your E.O. Or E.E.O rep ASAP!!!! Put your foot down and make him / her do their job!!!! If E.O fails tell the ENTIRE CHAIN OF HIS COMMAND!!!

Response by Sgt Wayne Little made Feb 16 at 2018 7:49 PM

Sgt Wayne Little — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 19:49:39 -0500

Request mass if that doesn’t work take it to the chaplain.

Response by SSG Kenneth Farwell made Feb 16 at 2018 7:57 PM

SSG Kenneth Farwell — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 19:57:04 -0500

Report him to your plt. Leader or the first sgt

Response by SGT Aric Lier made Feb 16 at 2018 8:39 PM

SGT Aric Lier — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:39:13 -0500

tell him you have jock itch and ever since the surgery its been unbearable...... "What do you do?"

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 9:16 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 21:16:40 -0500

Just go straight to your company SHARP rep. That don't work go to your battalion SHARP rep and so on.

Response by SGT Jeremy Martin made Feb 16 at 2018 9:26 PM

SGT Jeremy Martin — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 21:26:45 -0500

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 11:10 PM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 23:10:56 -0500

If nothing is being done at your company, battalion or brigade level chain of command, go to your division IG

Response by SPC Vince Higgins made Feb 16 at 2018 11:11 PM

SPC Vince Higgins — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 23:11:32 -0500

well maybe an article 138 that's like a article 15 but for nco harassment
look in the ucmj you can see it at the mos library

Response by SSG Ken Gilder made Feb 16 at 2018 11:36 PM

SSG Ken Gilder — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 23:36:57 -0500

First, you have to have all your ducks in a row. Documentation, witnesses, video and audio tapes, etc. Then, you talk to your 1SG and unit CO, and tell them "With all due respect, I want something done about this. If I feel nothing has been done, I will take it to the (next higher commander/post IG)" Then, follow through.

Most field grade commanders have an "open door" policy, where unit members may air their concerns/complaints, and the IG's door is always open.

I don't know about the Army, but the Navy has a 1-800 sexual abuse hotline. If the Army does have one, and all other avenues are closed, use it.

But one caution: You better be right, and you better be able to prove it. If you aren't, and can't, buckle yourself in, because it will be a very rough ride.

Response by SFC Jerry Sodan made Feb 17 at 2018 1:31 AM

SFC Jerry Sodan — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 01:31:05 -0500

Specialist, talk to his wife and your Platoon leader, 1SG &CO. If that doesn’t work try the IG

Response by CPL Steve Medina made Feb 17 at 2018 8:15 AM

CPL Steve Medina — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 08:15:29 -0500

JAG

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 8:29 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 08:29:47 -0500

Make sure that you have specifically told him to stop and he understands that. Keep the voicemails and any texts he sent. Starting writing a memorandum for record to record everything. Once you have all that, go see the SHARP rep and give them everything. Is the company commander aware of this?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 8:30 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 08:30:08 -0500

Yes take your text MSG to your SHARP rep. Each company has one. Let them handle it.

Response by MAJ Jim Henderson made Feb 17 at 2018 9:34 AM

MAJ Jim Henderson — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 09:34:05 -0500

My experience is that when the chain of command fails you go to the IG.

Response by SGT Eric Vazquez made Feb 17 at 2018 9:40 AM

SGT Eric Vazquez — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 09:40:49 -0500

SHARP bro it's what it's there for

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 10:40 AM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 10:40:32 -0500

Contact your unit’s Inspector General’s office

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 10:57 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 10:57:25 -0500

This if allowed to continue could escalate. Go right up the chain of command & address your concerns until you reach someone who Will “Take Action”!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 11:27 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 11:27:08 -0500

I've busted almost every rank, including pulling commissions from lieutenants, if your chain of comm and tolerates this, I apologize profusely, though I know that's not enough. Hopefully this situation is rectified and it doesn't change your opinion of the Army as a whole. There are leaders that truly care and I'm sorry you haven't gotten them yet!

Response by PV2 Anthony Giannantoni made Feb 17 at 2018 12:36 PM

PV2 Anthony Giannantoni — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:36:35 -0500

From What I read he seems like a desperate man reaching out for some help and advice if he has had inappropriate conversations about unacceptable topics than yes report but befor being to hasty and possibly ruining someone's career maybe advise him to speak with the chaplain about his problems

Response by CW3 Tracy Yates made Feb 17 at 2018 1:59 PM

CW3 Tracy Yates — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 13:59:38 -0500

Col is right on point.
Do as the Col says.

Response by CSM Larry Cross (Retired) made Feb 17 at 2018 3:44 PM

CSM Larry Cross (Retired) — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:44:49 -0500

Contact the US Army Ombudsman Program [login to see]
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Response by 2LT Brad Klopp made Feb 17 at 2018 5:05 PM

2LT Brad Klopp — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:05:57 -0500

Please read COL. Joseph Lenertz comment! Do everything he says. Document Document Document. Don’t wait to contact sexual harassment reps! They can intervene for you. You’re at the point you need an advocate also provide written statements of the issue and hand carry it to your command. They’ll take your situation seriously, but don’t waist another minute! Good luck.

Response by A1C Duston Carley made Feb 17 at 2018 5:20 PM

A1C Duston Carley — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:20:42 -0500

Take it straight to the Inspector General! That group does not play! It will be stopped..

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 6:20 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:20:36 -0500

If the chain doesn’t work out direct him to me. I’ll sort him out.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Feb 17 at 2018 6:37 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:37:40 -0500

It’s called the chain of Command.
Use it.
Start with Team Leader, Squad Leader etc.
Escalate until it gets sorted. I’m sure the Army has some form of EO or HR. Go to them.
It’s not uncommon for young SNCOs to struggle to create that professional separation. Just talk to your chain of command and eventually it will get sorted.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 6:59 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:59:52 -0500

Wow. This guy sounds like a complete creep :-/

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 8:46 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 20:46:58 -0500

You got that right he’s a E6 not a SSG or Plt Sgt. He’s Garbage Ass NCO.
If you reported him already and nothing was done. Your next step IG.
Cause it means your whole chain of command is garbages. A dam E6 texting and calling when it has nothing to do work is fraternization.

Response by CSM David Litteral made Feb 17 at 2018 9:14 PM

CSM David Litteral — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:14:02 -0500

SPC, you need to go see your Bn CSM immediately.

Response by PFC Moshe Puckett made Feb 17 at 2018 9:53 PM

PFC Moshe Puckett — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:53:50 -0500

id ask for a transfer or assigned to another company if your being harassed and you top or battery commander hasnt done anything talk to your csm is there your smoke e-7 doing this

Response by SFC William Reese made Feb 17 at 2018 10:30 PM

SFC William Reese — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:30:53 -0500

File an IG complaint if your chain of command won't address the issue.

Response by SGT Ken Wynn made Feb 17 at 2018 10:42 PM

SGT Ken Wynn — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:42:04 -0500

If the sexual harassment representatives and others in your chain of command are being non-responsive, contact your Congressional Representative or your Senators laying out all your documentation and request a Congressional Inquiry. You are protected by the whistle blower protection act and if anyone hassles you for requesting a Congressional Inquiry, your chain of command can be relieved of their duties.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 11:09 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:09:53 -0500

IG complaint. Maybe skipping a few links but if you’ve reported him and no response. That’s the checkmate!

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 11:13 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:13:44 -0500

Send one of his messages to your IG. If that dosn't work, call your Congressmen.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2018 11:46 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:46:33 -0500

You ever stop to think maybe he's opening up to you to vent?

Response by SGT Louise Hawthorne made Feb 18 at 2018 12:06 AM

SGT Louise Hawthorne — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:06:50 -0500

If nothing else has worked, I suggest you get your documentation of who what when and why you have been violated along with the names of who you've contacted in this regard together. Go to your IG or initiate a Congressional Inquiry into why nothing has been done. Pisses people off, so ensure your facts are straight. Good luck. HOOAH!

Response by PO2 John Campbell made Feb 18 at 2018 12:20 AM

PO2 John Campbell — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:20:41 -0500

Good luck SPC! I was accused of sexual harassment 26 years ago. The command most definitely will take the word of a (officer in my case) higher up over you. I refused to go to Captains mast. Your ALLWAYS guilty in the old mans eyes. I demanded a general courtsmarial. This was right after "Tailhook", and I wasn't going to be made a "example" of. I refused Admirals mast for same reasons. Made him made, he relieved my CO for it happening on his watch. Long story short was found Not Guilty. Ended my 10 year career. But left with my dignity and Honorable discharge. HM2

Response by SFC William Reese made Feb 18 at 2018 3:06 AM

SFC William Reese — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 03:06:58 -0500

You can also check out AR 600-20, chapter 14 I believe.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2018 6:50 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 06:50:27 -0500

You're promotable and you don't know what to do about a harassment case? Look maybe in missing details or some type of hidden clues but nothing you mentioned is sexual harassment there for if you report it as sexual harassment it will not go anywhere it will turn into nothing.....your best bet is an I.G. complaint...."attempteped fratinizatuon" sounds like he made a move and you turned him down so now he just talks to you about other shit that's not your business or appropriate...cool he's in the wrong but everything wrong between a male and female isn't sexual harassment

Response by Sgt Paul Gerhardt made Feb 18 at 2018 9:00 AM

Sgt Paul Gerhardt — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 09:00:46 -0500

This is very interesting: we as a force have failed to protect whistleblowers in the past. Why? - because when one hears a squeaky wheel, one looks for the source; the root problem is much harder to detect!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2018 3:06 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:06:47 -0500

Better pull out the ACE card. This could lead into a potential area of concern and possible Saftey of this NCO. For all you who have forgotten what SHARP/EO are, this has nothing to with either.

Response by SPC Darren Coffenberry made Feb 18 at 2018 3:20 PM

SPC Darren Coffenberry — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:20:44 -0500

Report his ass to JAG i bet it stops....

Response by SGM Edward Sullivan made Feb 18 at 2018 5:55 PM

SGM Edward Sullivan — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:55:15 -0500

I have some serious problems with a lot of the answers being given. This NCO has a direct leadership relationship with this soldier. ANY non-duty contact is directly prohibited, after being advised to curtail such contact, this NCO has violated at least two Articles of the UCMJ and the Army Sexual Harrassment Policies. The Installation IG would really like to see this one, especially if the Chain of Command has ignored it. It hasn't risen to the level where the Military Police could take action, YET! If I can take what the soldier says for face value, I am TOTALLY DISGUSTED with this Chain of Command.

Response by PFC Robert Persall made Feb 18 at 2018 6:58 PM

PFC Robert Persall — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 18:58:02 -0500

Document every incidence, report to chain of command. Go up the ladder then to A.G.

Response by SPC Evan Myles made Feb 18 at 2018 7:11 PM

SPC Evan Myles — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:11:55 -0500

Every Commander and 1st Sgt should have an open door policy. Use this and bring all of the documentation you have to your 1st Sgt and Commander. Get you Squad Leader involved. If you've already done this and nothing is being done, you can also utilize the unit or battalion SHARP representative as well as your Battalion CSM and Battalion Commander. Your main focus is the inappropriate conversations and harassment.

Response by SPC Cheppette Timmerman made Feb 18 at 2018 7:21 PM

SPC Cheppette Timmerman — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:21:29 -0500

20 yrs ago you laughed it off and never found yourself alone with him, he'll it was that way ten yrs ago cause if you reported it, you were the problem soldier even when you were married... glad males are starting to notice that all females don't have the problem

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2018 10:15 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:15:50 -0500

Well if your chain of command is not doing nothing about the issue. Then my next step would be at the Jag office.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2018 10:41 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:41:44 -0500

Refer him to EO and SHARP if necessary. Also, got to your 1SG

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 19 at 2018 12:06 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:06:24 -0500

Contact you local IG. If you don't know who he or she is contact me. I'm on global....I'm MSG Ebony Green one of the servicing IGs stationed at Fort Benning.

Response by PVT Lacy Imus made Feb 19 at 2018 12:37 AM

PVT Lacy Imus — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:37:09 -0500

Good luck. I know this, if and when you turn them in you get labeled as someone who wants to take out NCOs who aren't doing their job and targeted. My direct line NCO was the worst of all. Good luck I hope it works out for you.

Response by SGT Justin Singleton made Feb 19 at 2018 7:49 AM

SGT Justin Singleton — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 07:49:57 -0500

It seems things are okay now. As a recap to the comments: You saved evidence, and you went to the 1SG. If things didn’t get better then you were going directly to the EO rep, correct?

Response by SFC Antonio Nieto made Feb 19 at 2018 8:58 AM

SFC Antonio Nieto — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:58:59 -0500

Army command policy

Response by SFC Antonio Nieto made Feb 19 at 2018 9:01 AM

SFC Antonio Nieto — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:01:27 -0500

I love the vocabulary use by 1lt

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 19 at 2018 10:39 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:39:14 -0500

Go to your command and show them your phone and text messages

Response by Patrick J Rowe made Feb 19 at 2018 11:44 AM

Patrick J Rowe — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:44:53 -0500

Contact the chaplain. I know it soundsound. Trust me. This is his lane and one of the only staff officers that speak directly to the BEn commander. This isn't about religion, its your peace of mind. Good luck I pray this helped you.

Response by SPC Michael Mancini made Feb 19 at 2018 2:50 PM

SPC Michael Mancini — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:50:55 -0500

Go to the Jag office issue a complaint if you're get no response from your chain of command .

Response by COL John Turner made Feb 19 at 2018 3:22 PM

COL John Turner — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:22:23 -0500

SPC,
COL J. Lenertz has put forth the correct COA. Only one item might be added and that is very much up to you and how you feel AFTER executing the COL's advice:
Once you have sought and achieved the proper outcome, take a moment for yourself. DO NOT let this substandard NCO put you at a disadvantage. You ARE a critical part of what we do. Do not let anyone take that away from you.

Response by SSG Kenneth Farwell made Feb 19 at 2018 8:37 PM

SSG Kenneth Farwell — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:37:32 -0500

Take it up the chain of command

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 19 at 2018 9:51 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 21:51:31 -0500

If u have to post this on social media someone in your chain of command is failing you ! No one should have to feel like this while at work.........try the IG

Response by SPC Eddie Ferrell made Feb 19 at 2018 10:22 PM

SPC Eddie Ferrell — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:22:46 -0500

Just say no, then follow the chain of command, sp4 Ferrell

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 12:06 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 00:06:05 -0500

I am a SHARP VA. I’m glad to see so many people pointing you in the direction of your SHARP office. The question I have is whether or not anything he is saying or doing is sexual in nature. If it is you have a couple different reporting options. Also keep in mind that you can go to any SHARP person and make a report so there are a lot of resources out there. I’d be happy to answer any additional questions you have and let you know what your options are

Response by 1SG Mark Reed made Feb 20 at 2018 7:32 AM

1SG Mark Reed — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 07:32:12 -0500

If reported and the chain of command has failed. Time to report it to the IG

Response by 1SG Daniel Ames made Feb 20 at 2018 7:41 AM

1SG Daniel Ames — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 07:41:35 -0500

Because you can't kick him in the ass I agree one hundred percent to put EVERYTHING in print,Good luck and God Speed!

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 9:04 AM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:04:01 -0500

Sharp his ass

Response by SSG Al Gaeta made Feb 20 at 2018 9:08 AM

SSG Al Gaeta — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:08:45 -0500

I too was once a E-6 and if I couldn’t get the results I wanted I now the chain of command but I also knew the Sgt. Major he made shit happen!

Response by Maj Larry Carmon made Feb 20 at 2018 9:12 AM

Maj Larry Carmon — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:12:57 -0500

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 10:46 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:46:33 -0500

I'm so sorry that you are going through this. All you are trying to do is serve your country and you have to deal with this crap! If your chain of command is standing by and doing nothing, I hope they catch heat too. Good luck. You got this!

Response by Charles Godbold made Feb 20 at 2018 10:47 AM

Charles Godbold — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:47:15 -0500

Talk to your company xo or chaplain and file a sharp complaint

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 11:50 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 11:50:12 -0500

use the buddy system

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 12:00 PM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 12:00:53 -0500

Ok, so just in case this is not being resolved by the unit. Or you feel that SHARP / EO is not helping the situation, please remember that you can also file a police report in addition to the EO / SHARP so long as you also have evidence or citeable instances which can be deemed as a criminal act such as ‘stalking’

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 12:04 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 12:04:18 -0500

You can counsel an nco on unbecoming of an nco for a married soldier fratenizing with lower enlisted.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 3:23 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:23:10 -0500

Any good 1SG or BN SGM should be able to fix this stat. Always try to handle issues like this at the lowest level.

Response by Scott Hall-Meduna made Feb 20 at 2018 5:51 PM

Scott Hall-Meduna — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:51:46 -0500

Talk to your CSM.
Or Lt. COL.
They will most likely send you to the EO person but you need to get someone's attention ASAP.
Been through this.

Response by CPL Jeffrey OConnor made Feb 20 at 2018 6:43 PM

CPL Jeffrey OConnor — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 18:43:09 -0500

Be careful how you approach. I had an E6 who got way to personal with his personal life and issues to the point he confided with me that he intended to shoot up the company at morning formation. Showed me his Spanish rife and box of ammo. Of course I informed my CO, who had the MP's show up, and he spent a month on a psych ward. Guess what, a month later he was released, and still in charge of me. Long story short, within six months, I went from Spec-4 to E-2 because he kept his word that he would get even with me. Ended up getting an early discharge (under honorable conditions thankfully). Rank is rank, and if you cross him, it may cost you in the end. You may be better off just letting him vent, as long as it isn't hurting your career.

Response by SPC Mark Tegtman made Feb 20 at 2018 6:43 PM

SPC Mark Tegtman — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 18:43:57 -0500

CYA! Document everything including recording conversations, etc. Watch your back! If others have witnessed this they need to step forward. You or anyone else does not need this! As with any large org., make sure you cover yourself with facts and evidence because, unfortunatley, the "network" can turn things into their favor! Good luck....

Response by CPL Ken Townend made Feb 20 at 2018 8:58 PM

CPL Ken Townend — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:58:16 -0500

Use your chain of command if your Lt doesn’t listen got to the captain if that doesn’t work request the next level and if you have to there is a special number you can call. Also document all the inappropriate actions. I am sorry you are dealing with this. CPL Townend 1983-1998

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 9:13 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 21:13:43 -0500

I bet if you kicked him in the nuts there would be no NJP or court martial.

Response by SGM Robin Johnson made Feb 21 at 2018 2:10 AM

SGM Robin Johnson — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 02:10:50 -0500

You say you have reported him, but not to whom you made the report. This will end up with your commander resolving the issue, but depending on what had already been done (or not done) it may be a higher level commander. If you have not reported it to your 1SG and company commander, do that now. If you did, and they said they would take care of it, they may have taken some action and think it worked, since they didn't hear any differently (although ideally they would have asked you), so go back and tell them it's still happening. Other options are to use the open door policy to see the battalion CSM and CO, or to file an EO complaint. While I normally advise attempting an informal complaint with the company or battalion EO leader first, in this case I would recommend that you hoi straight to the brigade EOA and/or the IG. Explain that you have already reported the harassment and attempted fraternization with no success. You will have to name the basis of the complaint and I recommend you name both sexual or gender based discrimination and fraternization. This is because the sexual/gender based harassment (assuming he is targeting you for this to either attempt to initiate a relationship, or singling you out based on gender because he is stereotyping that females are supposed to be empathetic, emotional, and care about relationship issues) will be handled by EO/SHARP, while the fraternization will be handled by the IG. Because of different complaint procedures, one may substantiate the complaint while the other may not, because they will be examining the behavior according to two different standards. So make the complaint on BOTH bases (and if they try to say you have to complain to only one, tell them you want to complain to file an EO complaint about sexual harassment, and an IG complaint about fraternization, unless they can assure you that the 15-6 investigating officer will be appointed to investigate both offenses.) Ultimately they will advise the commander, who will make the determinations, but if you press the issue and know your rights, they will be more likely to pursue both issues. Make sure you save all the emails and texts... they need a preponderance of the evidence for the commander to substantiate a complaint.

Response by SGT Michael Hartman made Feb 21 at 2018 4:00 AM

SGT Michael Hartman — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 04:00:23 -0500

Definitely take him off the chain to higher levels of command. He doesn't deserve to be a leader if he's doing this kind of thing. And get it done quick sounds like it might get worse for you.

Response by SSG Greg Roberts made Feb 21 at 2018 9:48 AM

SSG Greg Roberts — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:48:55 -0500

This has IG complaint written all over it.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2018 9:54 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:54:51 -0500

The Chain of Command is the key. Use your voice as a member of the command to see your Company then BN leadership. Use the SHARP reps. A competent one that you are comfortable with. I would also recommend you get familiar with the regs and policies that support Soldiers from this behavior..../ you unfortunately are key in bringing this to light and to see it through.....

Response by SGT Ray Davies made Feb 21 at 2018 1:32 PM

SGT Ray Davies — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:32:59 -0500

Tell his wife.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2018 3:48 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:48:14 -0500

Contact you SARC

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2018 3:53 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:53:47 -0500

“SPC(P)”

Response by SSG Scott Bregi made Feb 21 at 2018 6:11 PM

SSG Scott Bregi — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:11:01 -0500

Contact your SHARP representative

Response by SSG Jeff Hulet made Feb 21 at 2018 7:04 PM

SSG Jeff Hulet — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 19:04:19 -0500

I think you have many people that have given great advice. If going up the chain to BN CSM has not helped, go to IG and it should end. But, work your Chain of Command first before you do that.

Response by Cpl Robert Robertson made Feb 21 at 2018 7:16 PM

Cpl Robert Robertson — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 19:16:29 -0500

Personal interaction between ranks used to be outlawed...They sent people to the brig for that.Talk to your Top or Gunny..E-7 for the Army..It will get squared away.

Response by LTC Cary King made Feb 21 at 2018 7:17 PM

LTC Cary King — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 19:17:45 -0500

Go to the Company Commander or the 1st Sgt. If that fails ask to see the Battalion CO or the Sgt Major. If all else fails go to the IG or see the Jag on post.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2018 7:36 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 19:36:01 -0500

This is actually a form of harrassment and should be reported to your EOL.

Response by GySgt Leonardo Jerez made Feb 21 at 2018 7:36 PM

GySgt Leonardo Jerez — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 19:36:05 -0500

This is unacceptable! The fact that you have to go through all this collection of evidence speaks for itself. Do collect the evidence and presented to your chain of command. If you find that you are not being listening to there is such a thing as the Inspecting General (IG) or Criminal Investigation Division (CID). I hope that it doesn't come to that point. Make sure you do give your chain of command the opportunity to handle the situation appropriately. But if they fail to preserve the standard of conduct expected of our Armed Forces than do use those channels.

Response by PV2 Israel Campbell made Feb 21 at 2018 8:56 PM

PV2 Israel Campbell — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 20:56:37 -0500

if all else fails, use his own bad judgment against him, if he is putting pressure on you to get something from you, then all you need to do is set up a scenario in which he seems to be getting wha he wants, but all he is really getting is enough evidence for a court matial under other then honorable circumstances, barring that contact a JAG officer, they will be ale to give you better advice

Response by LCpl Juan Rives made Feb 22 at 2018 11:30 AM

LCpl Juan Rives — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:30:39 -0500

Very easy. It appears to me that you have already exhausted the means to get him to stop. Time to take it up the chain. You can also file with base legal.

Response by SP5 Norman McGill made Feb 22 at 2018 1:39 PM

SP5 Norman McGill — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 13:39:05 -0500

Ask for a transfer
.

Response by PO1 Glenn Cooper made Feb 22 at 2018 1:40 PM

PO1 Glenn Cooper — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 13:40:48 -0500

There’s something more going on with the blurring of boundaries and airing all that personal BS. He is vicariously satisfying something by doing that. Watch yourself, it only gets bolder with his internally justified acceptance. He’s go friggin issues. 20 year LE opinion

Response by SGT Keith Lambert made Feb 22 at 2018 2:42 PM

SGT Keith Lambert — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:42:27 -0500

It happens more than you know. Leadership likes to sweep things under the rug to make themselves look good.

Response by PO3 Kevin Collins made Feb 22 at 2018 3:29 PM

PO3 Kevin Collins — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:29:15 -0500

Write your Congressman.

Response by SSG Michael Graham III made Feb 22 at 2018 5:00 PM

SSG Michael Graham III — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 17:00:47 -0500

He's obviously unprofessional and is a problem but...the bigger problem is your command if you reported him and they've done nothing to resolve this. How far up the chain of command have you gone?

Response by CPT Anton King made Feb 22 at 2018 5:47 PM

CPT Anton King — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 17:47:27 -0500

Use the chain of command. See the First Sergeant, then the Company Commander, then the Battalion Commander, and if that doesn't help, the Brigade Commander. You said you reported him; to whom? If everything else fails, go to the IG.

Response by PFC Aaron Cox made Feb 22 at 2018 6:06 PM

PFC Aaron Cox — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:06:51 -0500

These guys have a lot better suggestions then I would have given you. My suggestion would have involved that gorilla with First sergeant stripes.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2018 8:10 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 20:10:32 -0500

Go to your unit EO rep. Make a formal complaint.

Response by PO3 Tom Adams made Feb 23 at 2018 4:25 AM

PO3 Tom Adams — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 04:25:35 -0500

ARTICLE 15 ARTICLE 32 are a couple of things I can think of. Make sure you keep the voice mail as EVIDENCE.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2018 10:44 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 10:44:25 -0500

Go to a sharp or EO rep from another company if need be, like others said document and save emails and conversations that are not duty related, but also bluntly state this is crossing a professional boundary and is inappropriate

Response by CPL Kirby Mabery made Feb 23 at 2018 12:54 PM

CPL Kirby Mabery — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:54:15 -0500

Talk to Your first sgt. , if nothing is done the take it to your commander , csm then last step IG.

Response by SSgt Craig Manns made Feb 23 at 2018 3:00 PM

SSgt Craig Manns — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:00:27 -0500

Get in touch with the Inspector General.
http://www.usarcent.army.mil/Directorates/Inspector-General/

Purpose of IG, below
https://www.thebalance.com/army-inspector-general-3344570

IG | U.S. Army Central

The Official website for U.S. Army Central, a U.S. Army Service Component Command.

Response by SGT Rick Smith made Feb 23 at 2018 3:38 PM

SGT Rick Smith — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:38:32 -0500

Take the texts and record the phone calls, take them to the top.

Response by SSG Monica Conger made Feb 23 at 2018 7:49 PM

SSG Monica Conger — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:49:26 -0500

back in my day, if your chain of command didn't work to solve a problem like this, then the next step was to file an IG complaint. Do they even have that anymore?

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2018 8:22 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:22:59 -0500

I swift kick to the nuts followed by a statement to him along the lines of if you talk or tell anyone I’ll be turning over everything to the sharp office

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2018 8:32 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:32:13 -0500

SARC

Response by Cpl Hartley Cole made Feb 23 at 2018 9:10 PM

Cpl Hartley Cole — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 21:10:55 -0500

Welcome to the Army and National that would never happen in the Marine Corps. Also this relationship you're talking about sounds like it just didn't happen overnight it wasn't like the first sergeant just one day and tell him I'll my business you must have some kind of relationship friendship in the past and now you're mad at him we're tired of being at him we're tired of being his friend so you want to get him in trouble?

Response by SPC Ron (Tony) Escamillo made Feb 23 at 2018 10:23 PM

SPC Ron (Tony) Escamillo — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:23:26 -0500

You’re a specialist and don’t know the regulations by now ?make an appointment with Jag.
Either that or ask for a transfer.

Response by SFC Paul Martinez made Feb 24 at 2018 1:35 AM

SFC Paul Martinez — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 01:35:18 -0500

Army regulation states shall not fratinize with soldiers they have supervision over.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 24 at 2018 9:40 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 09:40:02 -0500

AR 600-20 is your friend. Here is a copy and paste excerpt from Chapter 4 that applies - maybe not in its entirety - to your situation.

b. Soldiers of different grades must be cognizant that their interactions do not create an actual or clearly predictable
perception of undue familiarity between an officer and an enlisted Soldier, or between an NCO and a junior-enlisted
Soldier. Examples of familiarity between Soldiers that may become “undue” can include repeated visits to bars,
nightclubs, eating establishments, or homes between an officer and an enlisted Soldier, or an NCO and a junior-enlisted
Soldier, except for social gatherings, that involve an entire unit, office, or work section. All relationships between
Soldiers of different grade are prohibited if they—
(1) Compromise, or appear to compromise, the integrity of supervisory authority or the chain of command.
(2) Cause actual or perceived partiality or unfairness.
(3) Involve, or appear to involve, the improper use of grade or position for personal gain.
(4) Are, or are perceived to be, exploitative or coercive in nature.
(5) Create an actual or clearly predictable adverse impact on discipline, authority, morale, or the ability of the
command to accomplish its mission.
c. Certain types of personal relationships between officers and enlisted Soldiers, or NCOs and junior enlisted
Soldiers, are prohibited. Prohibited relationships include the following: (some parts omitted due to lack of relevance)
.
.
e. All military personnel share the responsibility for maintaining professional relationships. However, in any
relationship between Soldiers of different grade or rank, the senior member is generally in the best position to
terminate or limit the extent of the relationship. Nevertheless, all members may be held accountable for relationships
that violate this policy.
f. Commanders should seek to prevent inappropriate or unprofessional relationships through proper training and
personal leadership. Commanders have a wide range of responses available should inappropriate relationships occur.
These responses may include counseling, reprimand, order to cease, reassignment, or adverse action. Potential adverse
action may include official reprimand, adverse evaluation report(s), nonjudicial punishment, separation, bar to reenlistment,
promotion denial, demotion, and courts martial. Commanders must carefully consider all of the facts and
circumstances in reaching a disposition that is warranted, appropriate, and fair.

In the end, if you have not been able to reach closure on this situation with your company level leadership, you should file a formal complaint and elevate it to the next higher levels of your CoC until the situation is resolved.

V/R,
MSG R.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Feb 24 at 2018 3:20 PM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 15:20:15 -0500

I see you used the advice given here about using your chain of command.
And that's good, so now teach the next generation what you'll learned.

Response by LCpl Ashley Wilson made Feb 24 at 2018 5:08 PM

LCpl Ashley Wilson — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 17:08:27 -0500

Maybe a .45 in his face?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 24 at 2018 7:04 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:04:24 -0500

I was a PSG and feel this behavior is intolerable and reprehensible from anyone. You are not the victim. Under the SHARP program, the own-ness is on the perpetrator. Absolutely report this to the BN SHARP rep. Seems like you tried the direct and third party approach, take it higher. That behavior can not and should not stand. We are all brothers and sisters in arms.

Response by Rj Shea made Feb 24 at 2018 7:25 PM

Rj Shea — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:25:07 -0500

Just try and go to the lowest level of chain of command first. If nothing is being done. Then take it higher

Response by PO1 Jim Crawford made Feb 24 at 2018 7:57 PM

PO1 Jim Crawford — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:57:58 -0500

I recommend speaking with your Sgt. Major or platoon commander

Response by PV2 Christopher Graham made Feb 24 at 2018 11:12 PM

PV2 Christopher Graham — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 23:12:46 -0500

An E6 asking a Spec 4 for marital advice?! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over. If you take it up with your chain of command, the Bravo Sierra should stop most riki-tik. If not, JAG . Remember the Army's unwritten 4th General Order; "From front to rear and from flank to flank I won't take any shit from any rank." You have to obey the LAWFUL orders of your superiors. You do NOT have to put up with their BS.

Response by LCpl Nicholas VanValkenburg made Feb 25 at 2018 3:34 AM

LCpl Nicholas VanValkenburg — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 03:34:27 -0500

Request mass and if nothing is done file a report with the base MPs and then follow up with JAG.

Response by SP5 Craig Glynn made Feb 25 at 2018 3:36 AM

SP5 Craig Glynn — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 03:36:57 -0500

Go to your Commanding Officer/Chaplain, or last talk with a JAG Officer, to recommend assistance! Last , but by no means, least! Call me, I’m a good listener.. [login to see] I have a recorder, so if I’m not readily available, leave a message! Cheer up, it’s not the end of the World! ❤️

Response by SPC Daniel Rankin made Feb 25 at 2018 5:01 AM

SPC Daniel Rankin — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 05:01:34 -0500

if you have saved all the messages and voice mails, then show them to the sgm. that will not only end it but the e-6 will also end up with a letter of reprimand in his files.

Response by Lt Col Bg Smith made Feb 25 at 2018 7:04 AM

Lt Col Bg Smith — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:04:22 -0500

Go high fast. Sounds like weak leadership in command structure. People emulate their leadership.

Response by PFC Jerry Rogers made Feb 25 at 2018 11:34 AM

PFC Jerry Rogers — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:34:07 -0500

a ski mask, a bat, and a place where no one sees nothing.

Response by CPL Matt Maley made Feb 25 at 2018 3:25 PM

CPL Matt Maley — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 15:25:22 -0500

Tell his fuckin wife. She'll cut his nuts off for you. Fuck that loser.

Response by SPC David S. made Feb 25 at 2018 5:02 PM

SPC David S. — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:02:15 -0500

I consulted the E4 mafia regs - it clearly states to send a text to the spouse. No other direction than "be creative"

Response by A1C Samuel Leggett made Feb 25 at 2018 9:35 PM

A1C Samuel Leggett — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:35:36 -0500

JAG. File a complaint with your JAG office. If you have done everything that you feel possible, then this would be you avenue. Also, anyone who has not done their due diligence to stop this Sargent will answer to JAG as well.

Response by SGT Jeffery Moore made Feb 25 at 2018 11:13 PM

SGT Jeffery Moore — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 23:13:44 -0500

Your chain of command is not doing anything to fix this problem? Go to the next level and inform CID as well. It should end should the problem reach Battalion level. Best wishes!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2018 4:35 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 04:35:19 -0500

If your command is not helping then I suggest notifying the the MP's they will notify CID. Also let JAG know of the situation and that your command does not have your back. His behavior is totally unexceptable, sorry your having these problems.

Response by Cpl Ed Hines made Feb 26 at 2018 8:25 AM

Cpl Ed Hines — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:25:17 -0500

have you tried Tree-Line Counselling?

Response by CDR Zachary Kitchen made Feb 26 at 2018 10:02 AM

CDR Zachary Kitchen — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:02:02 -0500

It's rather obvious he's looking to score--"I'm having relationship problems and I need a shoulder to cry on" is a typical line. Report for sexual harassment. Keep all messages and texts to turn over to the proper authorities.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2018 10:34 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:34:58 -0500

You have to actually report him to your sharp rep. point blank period.

Response by SPC Micheal Tinsley made Feb 26 at 2018 11:11 AM

SPC Micheal Tinsley — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:11:01 -0500

He needs a confidante, but his own peer. Id imagine he cant find one.

Hardest thing about GI life is personality conflict. Thats why professionalism is paramount. Good luck.

Response by SgtMaj Bret Roy made Feb 26 at 2018 11:19 AM

SgtMaj Bret Roy — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:19:29 -0500

Send the messages to the IG (And to his wife) ... that should do it!

Response by GySgt David Gustavson made Feb 26 at 2018 11:36 AM

GySgt David Gustavson — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:36:42 -0500

My response would be old school Marine Infantry. You folks have more "difficulties" with the UCMJ now. If the chain of command does not rectify the issue request mast or contact the I.G. Do everything in writing. Things were better when a culprit could be beaten, but equality and the environment now forbid that. I will, however ask why the hell he has your cell phone number? If off post a home# is on the recall list. If in the barracks it's the barracks number. It doesn't add up. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

Response by CSM Tony Simpson made Feb 26 at 2018 1:12 PM

CSM Tony Simpson — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:12:09 -0500

talk to a Chaplin you will be surprised how they can help make this problem go away

Response by LTC Robert Reed made Feb 26 at 2018 3:16 PM

LTC Robert Reed — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:16:55 -0500

It's been 4 months since this post so I hope this has been resolved. If not, from what I've read, you've taken all the right steps by directly confronting your NCO and informing your 1SG. If this issue has continued, go to the units EOA or to the IG.
I served in the 1st Armored Division Inspector General's office when we were headquartered in Wiesbaden. This was in 2006 -2009. 2ACR fell under the 1st Armored Division footprint because V Corps was deployed to Iraq at the time. We conducted inspections, investigations and soldier assistant for 2ACR units on Vilseck. If you are still dealing with this issue, I'd recommend going to the IG. There is an office in Graf under the 7th ATC HQ. If you do go to the inspector General's office, make sure that you have the details ready to discuss and they will ask if you've gone through your chain of command first. You've done that based on your comments.

Response by MSG Tony Edwards made Feb 27 at 2018 5:44 PM

MSG Tony Edwards — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:44:50 -0500

Go above him in the CoC!!!

Response by SSgt James Brister made Feb 27 at 2018 8:52 PM

SSgt James Brister — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 20:52:08 -0500

Go to the legal office their is an article under the UCMJ that covers that.

Response by SGT Donald Lockwood made Feb 27 at 2018 11:47 PM

SGT Donald Lockwood — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 23:47:29 -0500

Go to this SSGs' home, show his wife the texts, phone calls, etc. Eat 5 or 6 cans of beans prior to arrival. Throw up all over the entertainment system, computer, etc. Fall to the floor begging apologies, and shit in his car. I am sure he will be done with you after that. The poor SSG has PTSD both domestic and international. His wife has turned into a frustrated whore, he is on the ropes and potentially has Aspbergers Syndrome. What works is that you align yourself so closely, text him so often, and show up at completely at inappropriate times that he brings you in to the 1SG. Explain this plan to the 1SG first so you will be okay.
P.S. The SSG is lonely and has a substantial risk for SUICIDE
He is dangerous. (Sorry I thought you were a guy).
So my advice to a FEMALE SPC(P) is as follows. Go to 1SG, write it up, get in another section. Do not gossip, or lie. 100% incident directed. Document the shit out of everything. Don't destroy a man and his career, he needs reeducation, and evaluation. He should not be in leadership.

Response by SGT Joshua Bressel made Feb 28 at 2018 1:54 PM

SGT Joshua Bressel — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 13:54:00 -0500

Bn COs, and CSMs have an open door policy. If you are having this bad a time, and nothing is being done at the company/troop level, you need to take every scrap of doccumentation you have, and see the BN CSM. This is extremely innapropriate, and way beyond propriety. If nothing is done by the CSM, see the IG. You should never be put in this kind of position. You have no reason to know the inner details of his life, and he shouldn't be sharing them with you. He is stepping WAY over the lines of fraternization.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2018 10:27 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:27:51 -0500

This is harassment, not sexual harassment. Everyone here needs to calm their shit and stop giving this soldier bad advise because you see a female soldier dealing with a male nco. Open door policy or IG. If nothing happens, file a harassment report through the mp's.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2018 12:34 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 12:34:06 -0500

SPC You need to talk to the SHARP/VA in you unit. There should be one assigned at every level of command.

Response by SSG Charlie Carlson made Mar 1 at 2018 7:47 PM

SSG Charlie Carlson — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:47:18 -0500

Bad ju-ju. I was a staff sergeant and assistant PLT SGT but main title was Squad Leader. I can tell this is unprofessional. Leaders should never fraternize with their subordinates. As a SSG and squad leader in Iraq we all lived in close quarters but the squad leaders had their own area that the "joes" were not allowed in without permission. We all as a platoon or squad hung out together but nothing like this. I am old army meaning I enlisted in 1989 and this NCO would have been dealt an ass-chewing and if that didn't work he would get an Art 15. Now coming from the CID side of the house I can tell you that Co Lenertz is absolutely spot on. Document everything. I have investigated sexual harassment cases with DOD Civilians as well as military personnel. Keep a running ledger of everything that happens and use dates and times and what was said or done. This is nothing more that what we called an Agent Activity Summary in CID. Hope this helps. If he has been reported and nothing has been done you have the right as a soldier to take this higher (with permission to go up the chain of command). You also have full access to the base EO office. Make an appointment but keep you ducks in a row.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2018 5:39 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Mar 2018 05:39:50 -0500

Col Lenertz is right about the records. One of my best friends be a retired Army E-6 and I being an E-5 in th Navy who has delt with other E-5's that acted like this you must directly deal with them first.

If you don't feel comfortable confronting them yourself it's perfectly acceptable to talk to a peer of that you trust and ask for them to say something to him, or better still, for them to be there while you do. Have them coach on how to do it respectfully, professionally and in a military manner.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2018 2:06 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Mar 2018 14:06:38 -0500

Have you tried the block button? Where is your squad leader? The plt Sgt isn't supposed to be communicating directly with you. How exactly is he "inept in every way?" That subjective approximation generally that just makes you sound like a narcissistic snob. Your choice of words leads me to believe you haven't been direct. If you aren't craving the attention, you probably should be. The regulation covering it is AR 600-20.

Response by PO1 John Young made Mar 2 at 2018 3:53 PM

PO1 John Young — Fri, 02 Mar 2018 15:53:16 -0500

Response by LTC John Bush made Mar 2 at 2018 4:59 PM

LTC John Bush — Fri, 02 Mar 2018 16:59:25 -0500

If you reported to the CO and got no action your next step is an IG complaint but, and I really hate to say this. be prepared for a reassignment. The Army officially has a zero tolerance policy for this stuff and your CO should really be able to handle it. Usually a quiet word will do but if a person is incorrigible usually someone gets moved.Use your chain of command before you go outside to an IG it almost always works.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2018 12:47 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Mar 2018 00:47:15 -0500

Go above his head to your co and fuck the rest of the bullshit.

Response by LCpl Michael Harrell made Mar 4 at 2018 10:47 PM

LCpl Michael Harrell — Sun, 04 Mar 2018 22:47:35 -0500

Charge his ass! Write a statement sheet( several copies) give one to your first shirt, then one to your sgtmjr, and for the CO. If that fails take it to JAG. Personally I’d give a copy to all! You need relief from this. Just make sure you have the evidence I.E. voice mails, texts etc.
The more you have the better off you are!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2018 10:56 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Mar 2018 22:56:16 -0500

In my opinion...he's totally into U! Go for it

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 12:09 AM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 00:09:13 -0500

You've had to of gone to 1000 sharp briefs being a SPC.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 10:04 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:04:30 -0500

I do not now if active duty has an I.G. but I would definitely recommend that route as well but go through the co bn and brigade levels first if nothing gets done there then go through your I.G. if still nothing talk to you're councilman

Response by CPO Rick Early made Mar 6 at 2018 8:11 PM

CPO Rick Early — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 20:11:19 -0500

Contact your unit SHARP Coordinator/SARC immediately. Not your CO/XO or 1SG. They are supposed to have your back but we've seen where that isn't already a given. Sad but true in so many cases. Back to the subject...Go see your SHARP/SARC now!

Response by Cpl Christian Mills made Mar 8 at 2018 12:51 PM

Cpl Christian Mills — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 12:51:44 -0500

PUNCH THE FUCKTARD IN THE THROAT

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Mar 25 at 2018 8:40 PM

SPC Byron Skinner — Sun, 25 Mar 2018 20:40:03 -0400

Sp4 Byron Skinner. The statement appears to be incomplete and that more information is needed to form an opinion. In short this sounds like a personal relationship had once existed here she wants out he doesn't. To many personal attacks in the question.

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made Mar 26 at 2018 2:42 AM

SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 02:42:49 -0400

Record him in the act.. If you need to take it further and prove your case.. Should an incompetent command not do it's due process to protect you.. Keep a copy of all records.. Somebody should get tired of his antics and PCS him..

Response by SFC Carlos Cruz made May 4 at 2018 3:55 PM

SFC Carlos Cruz — Fri, 04 May 2018 15:55:39 -0400

SPC Tiffany Ivanov, I am confused regardless don’t record any conversation is wrong, what you must do is file a SHARP complaint. This is very unprofessional & unauthorized by regulation you are authorized to be moved from this unit once you have file a complaint learn about SHARP AR 600-20. By now you should Had being very familiar with this & is why I am confused. No individual in a leadership position shut put you trough this due to his or her unprofessional behavior. You don’t need to allow it to continue or wait for any recording because is illegal therefore just file a complaint, request to be moved from this unit until investigators is completely. READ SHARP AR 600-20 because this is the best only weapon you need. I put many Soldiers out the Army for shut unprofessional behavior & as a SHARP NCO don’t wait or record any conversation because is will be interpreted as you was looking for it, it will work again you. Be smart file a complaint period.

Response by SFC Carlos Cruz made May 4 at 2018 6:11 PM

SFC Carlos Cruz — Fri, 04 May 2018 18:11:06 -0400

Report this idiot behavior to SHARP ASAP, this is unprofessional behavior & don’t go to Chain of Command because he can protect this Soldiers therefore SHARP AR 600-20. This is the regulation, you shut have known this by now, please don’t attend to record or video anything about the incident, you must report it period. The SHARP NCO must move you from the unit until the investigation is completed, do yourself a big one report it to SHARP AS sexual harassment ok.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2018 3:18 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 May 2018 15:18:20 -0400

Where is your PL LDR at in all of this? He or she is the person that should be informed after the PSG failed to back off. Keep him or her in the loop.

Response by SFC Greg West made May 14 at 2018 9:34 PM

SFC Greg West — Mon, 14 May 2018 21:34:25 -0400

Make sure you have as much as possible documented, particularly if there is anything overtly flirtatious or sexually explicit. IF something is ambiguous, that leaves legal wiggle room for your platoon sergeant to say his comments are taken out of context. Make sure nothing you have said can misconstrued either. Sometimes trying to be nice gets taken the wrong way and the person thinks you being nice is an opening for them to seize on the opportunity.
If there any witnesses to the inappropriate behavior that are willing to make witness statements that would be very helpful as well. Inform your next senior leader over your platoon sergeant and also inform them that if no action is taken you will seek remedy through the IG.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made May 29 at 2018 6:45 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Tue, 29 May 2018 06:45:24 -0400

Sounds like a guy that needs some deep intensive counseling .

Response by SPC Darcel Depweg made May 14 at 2019 11:00 PM

SPC Darcel Depweg — Tue, 14 May 2019 23:00:42 -0400

I dealt with that as well from a Major in our unit. None of the brass would do anything about it. so I started writing Memorandum of Record for every incident and kept all recording whenever possible. after I had plenty of evidence I confronted him with it and stated I would send it all to his wife if he did not leave me alone. he stopped.

Response by SPC Tiffany Ivanov made Apr 27 at 2020 2:06 PM

SPC Tiffany Ivanov — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:06:05 -0400

UPDATE!!

PSG did PCS and is now locked up in Leavenworth for child pornography. It seems is sex addiction (yes that’s what I meant with overly familiar) has no boundaries.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2020 5:00 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 May 2020 17:00:09 -0400

Wow. Talk to your EO Rep or if you don’t trust them go directly to EO at BN/BDE level, so tired of this shit in the Army

Response by SGT Kyle Bickley made May 23 at 2020 5:05 PM

SGT Kyle Bickley — Sat, 23 May 2020 17:05:22 -0400

There is plenty you can do! Take it up the chain of command! To the commanding general, to the IG! If they fail you, report it to your senator that represents you from your state. Keep all your text he is sending you as proof. Your 1st sergeant, and sergeant major should have been all over that! I'd hall his ass on the carpet for such bullshit!

Response by SFC Stephen Pointer made May 24 at 2020 10:31 PM

SFC Stephen Pointer — Sun, 24 May 2020 22:31:03 -0400

That right there is a serious violation of professional ethics. As a formere brigade level E/O rep, I am straight up telling you to go to your E/O rep and file a formal complaint ASAP. Beyond the ethical breach, there are danger signs all over this. His behavior is potentially dangerous, and must be dealt with immediately.

Response by Cpl Ed Hines made May 25 at 2020 10:24 AM

Cpl Ed Hines — Mon, 25 May 2020 10:24:54 -0400

He wants to sleep with you. Mystery solved.

Response by CPO Ronald DesJarlais made May 25 at 2020 11:09 AM

CPO Ronald DesJarlais — Mon, 25 May 2020 11:09:52 -0400

col. Lenertz gave a very good response. Document every thing and find the sexual response rep. As a victim of sexual abuse myself, I recommend not waiting to get this acted upon. The situation can get ugly quickly. If he calls you and you are with someone who you trust put him on speaker phone so that you have a witness and document that also.

Response by PO1 Javid Benson made May 25 at 2020 4:29 PM

PO1 Javid Benson — Mon, 25 May 2020 16:29:45 -0400

Th is is why you should wait to get married in the military. If your E6 is having problems then you should think about your future as a married soldier.

Response by LTC Mike Hughes made May 25 at 2020 6:35 PM

LTC Mike Hughes — Mon, 25 May 2020 18:35:32 -0400

Response by SFC Laurie Schultz made May 25 at 2020 6:57 PM

SFC Laurie Schultz — Mon, 25 May 2020 18:57:22 -0400

Go to the MPs and file a restraining order. Then go to the IG.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2020 7:47 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 25 May 2020 19:47:05 -0400

Sounds tailor made for a chat with your CSM.

Response by CPL Raul Perez Jr made May 25 at 2020 10:06 PM

CPL Raul Perez Jr — Mon, 25 May 2020 22:06:13 -0400

Keep documenting his actions. You can to MP’s and JAG maybe. Good luck.

Response by CPL William Knight made May 26 at 2020 6:22 AM

CPL William Knight — Tue, 26 May 2020 06:22:32 -0400

Absolutely do not tolerate it. Save all evidence and inform the next person above him in your chain of command. If you feel like you are being stonewalled in any way go to your battalion sexual assault rep, been a few years can't remember the position name. It's unacceptable behavior. I hope you find resolve

Response by CSM Rik Williamson made Aug 11 at 2020 8:45 AM

CSM Rik Williamson — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:45:30 -0400

Contact your SARC and report him again. IF you don't have a SARC contact a Chaplain and report him there.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2020 12:57 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:57:21 -0400

Document, maintain, and track all information this Plt Sgt Has given to you about off duty un professional behavior. Make sure you have verbally stated to the Pt Sgt “ I feel uncomfortable with your actions, they are in professional in nature, please stop talking to me about non work related details.” Use your command all the way to the Battalion Commander. Escalate it appropriately. If the command is not resolving the problem. Request Mast, seek an outside command, and involve base legal, Persue the MPs on what steps you can take for your safety both on and off base ( MPs authority stops at the gate), potentially look for a transfer to avoid said individual.

Response by LCpl Thomas Bowen made Aug 11 at 2020 2:02 PM

LCpl Thomas Bowen — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 14:02:29 -0400

Fraternization is most definite a no no.. if you have been to your leaders on the platoon level then go up to the company and report him .. and if you really want something done go to the chaplain ... he not their just to pray

Response by SGT Marsha Aperans made Aug 11 at 2020 3:16 PM

SGT Marsha Aperans — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:16:40 -0400

You should report it to the 1st Sgt.

Response by LCpl Samuel Maynard made Aug 11 at 2020 4:11 PM

LCpl Samuel Maynard — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:11:50 -0400

first be shure that it is odd or unusal treatment. i went though marine corp boot camp and i could do nothing right for 4 monthes. if it reaklly is off go to comand or chaplen for help

Response by SFC Marcus Ladner Sr. made Aug 11 at 2020 5:43 PM

SFC Marcus Ladner Sr. — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:43:22 -0400

File and EO complaint! Not sure if the correct name these days because I retired in 2005! His actions are inappropriate and shouldn’t be tolerated. Definitely report it if you feel so strongly about it. Your 1SG and Commander should be informed also. Don’t rely on one source to fix the problem, take any and every avenue to ensure your safety! Be real, make sure you cross all your T’s and dot all your I’s, because if your suspect they will turn this on you and make you out to be the bad guy!

Response by SFC Jeb Bryant made Aug 11 at 2020 11:02 PM

SFC Jeb Bryant — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 23:02:52 -0400

Go to the Chaplain....explain everything to them and they will go straight to the CoC when nothing is being done. The Chaplain has a lot of weight to throw around. Sometimes more than anyone else. They have so much power and will be heard by everyone.

Response by SPC Dale Peer made Sep 28 at 2020 10:04 AM

SPC Dale Peer — Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:04:04 -0400

Have you tried the IG?

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 29 at 2020 8:45 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 29 Oct 2020 08:45:33 -0400

Report him to your 1SG and/or Company Commander. AR 600-20 REQUIRES leadership to take ALL accusations seriously and to ACT upon them.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Aug 25 at 2021 10:49 PM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Wed, 25 Aug 2021 22:49:21 -0400

How did things turn out for you?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2021 11:03 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 25 Aug 2021 23:03:31 -0400

Just like COL Lenertz stated. Once your personal respect is violated, you have every right to call somebody out on their behavior. I actually get excited about the moment I get a chance to truly express myself.