How can I receive Post 9/11 GI Bill, FASFA aid, and other benefits due to being on 502 (f) (B) orders?

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Feb 2021 15:28:26 -0500

I am on federal orders for the COVID task force which should get me the listed aid above but I am being denied. They are telling me 502 (f) counts towards receiving aid but 502 (f) (B) does not. 502 (f) (B) is apparently for training which I am not doing. Like I am actually working and performing duties so I don't know why it says (B) on my orders. Can someone elaborate and help? Has anyone received aid on these orders and how? Thanks

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2021 4:48 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:48:22 -0500

Because I believe you are under title 32 orders not title 10.

32 U.S. Code § 502 - Required drills and field exercises

(a) Under regulations to be prescribed by the Secretary of the Army or the Secretary of the Air Force, as the case may be, each company, battery, squadron, and detachment of the National Guard, unless excused by the Secretary concerned, shall—
(1) assemble for drill and instruction, including indoor target practice, at least 48 times each year; and
(2) participate in training at encampments, maneuvers, outdoor target practice, or other exercises, at least 15 days each year.
However, no member of such unit who has served on active duty for one year or longer shall be required to participate in such training if the first day of such training period falls during the last one hundred and twenty days of his required membership in the National Guard.
(b) An assembly for drill and instruction may consist of a single ordered formation of a company, battery, squadron, or detachment, or, when authorized by the Secretary concerned, a series of ordered formations of parts of those organizations. However, to have a series of formations credited as an assembly for drill and instruction, all parts of the unit must be included in the series within 90 consecutive days.
(c) The total attendance at the series of formations constituting an assembly shall be counted as the attendance at that assembly for the required period. No member may be counted more than once or receive credit for more than one required period of attendance, regardless of the number of formations that he attends during the series constituting the assembly for the required period.
(d) No organization may receive credit for an assembly for drill or indoor target practice unless—
(1) the number of members present equals or exceeds the minimum number prescribed by the President;
(2) the period of military duty or instruction for which a member is credited is at least one and one-half hours; and
(3) the training is of the type prescribed by the Secretary concerned.
(e) An appropriately rated member of the National Guard who performs an aerial flight under competent orders may receive credit for attending drill for the purposes of this section, if the flight prevented him from attending a regularly scheduled drill.
(f)
(1)Under regulations to be prescribed by the Secretary of the Army or Secretary of the Air Force, as the case may be, a member of the National Guard may—
(A) without his consent, but with the pay and allowances provided by law; or
(B) with his consent, either with or without pay and allowances;
be ordered to perform training or other duty in addition to that prescribed under subsection (a).
(2) The training or duty ordered to be performed under paragraph (1) may include the following:
(A) Support of operations or missions undertaken by the member’s unit at the request of the President or Secretary of Defense.
(B) Support of training operations and training missions assigned in whole or in part to the National Guard by the Secretary concerned, but only to the extent that such training missions and training operations—
(i) are performed in the United States or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico or possessions of the United States; and
(ii) are only to instruct active duty military, foreign military (under the same authorities and restrictions applicable to active duty troops), Department of Defense contractor personnel, or Department of Defense civilian employees.
(3) Duty without pay shall be considered for all purposes as if it were duty with pay.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2021 4:49 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:49:56 -0500

When mobilized (or activated) under Title 10 U.S.C., you are directed by the president to report for active duty in an official capacity. You are being activated for federal active-duty military service. When in federal service, Guard personnel typically participate in military operations and are entitled to the same pay, benefits and legal protections as active military members.

Activation under Title 32 U.S.C. means that your state's governor has been authorized or directed by the president to mobilize or activate the National Guard in your state. You perform on active duty under state control, but with pay and benefits provided by the federal government.

If your Title 32 orders are for more than 30 days, you may be entitled to some of the same federal benefits as someone activated under Title 10 orders.

Mobilization orders may come with different duties. Title 10 service can include overseas mobilizations; Title 32 does not. Normally, Title 32 orders are for natural disasters, while Title 10 orders are for national defense. However, this isn't always the case.

https://www.military.com/benefits/reserve-and-guard-benefits/whats-difference-between-title-10-and-title-32-mobilization-orders.html

What's the Difference Between Title 10 and Title 32 Mobilization Orders?

Do your duties, pay or benefits differ, depending on what title your orders are issued under?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2021 8:00 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Feb 2021 20:00:56 -0500

You don't automatically get the post 9/11 by being on AD, you have to serve a specific amount of time to be eligible to use the benefits. If you were a PV2 who had joined the Army as Active Duty you still wouldn't qualify to use your Post 9/11 GI Bill yet.

You don't have to be on active duty to apply for FAFSA, FAFSA is Federal Financial Aid available to everyone.

You are still eligible for the Tuition Assistance provided by your state

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Feb 17 at 2021 11:44 PM

SFC Melvin Brandenburg — Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:44:44 -0500

Go to the education office on post. They can set you straight.