How can I reverse a part of my MEPs paperwork that says I am red/green color deficient?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:13:27 -0500

I’ve been interested in possibly reclassing to 35L Counterintelligence, but on my MEPs paperwork it’s says that I am Red/Green Color Deficient, when I went to a civilian optometrist I asked her to give me a color blindness exam, she stated that I am NOT colorblind, is there anyway I can try to reverse that part of my MEPs paperwork? It’s a real hinder to my future career.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2019 4:29 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:29:44 -0500

Just put your application into the CI branch and let them deny you if they feel it's a significant issue.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Nov 18 at 2019 4:41 PM

MAJ Javier Rivera — Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:41:42 -0500

Ask them to test you again. Sometimes they need to get shaken!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2019 7:06 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 18 Nov 2019 19:06:12 -0500

There should be 3 tests done at MEPS, Im assuming you did the Poly Isochromatic Plates (The dot test), FALANT (2 lights arranged vertically) and the Red/Green Vivids test (they literally show you a green, red and black set of cards). In the Army you only have to pass one to show you have acceptable Red/Green color vision.

If you failed the RGV test you're screwed.

I failed the PIP test and passed the other 2, no where on my paperwork did I see anything that stated I was officially color deficient and I was there 6 months ago.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2019 10:00 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 18 Nov 2019 22:00:49 -0500

You can always go to your provider and request an eye exam. Just explain your reason. I dont see why they wouldn't put in a referral.

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Nov 19 at 2019 12:25 PM

SFC Casey O'Mally — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 12:25:24 -0500

Generally speaking there are two ways to beat documentation of ANY sort in the Army. The first is with contradicting (and usually more recent) documentation. If Doc A say you are 5'6", go to Doc B and have him document you as being 5'8". In your case, have that civilian optometrist DOCUMENT that you are not colorblind. Your word that she said you aren't isn't good enough.

The second way to beat documentation os to prove factual inaccuracy in the documentation. If yoiur enlistment contract was for Matty Ferrer, you go back with your Driver's license, birth certificate, and/or Social Security card, and show that your name is Matthew, not Matty. This method of documatation correction almost always involves... You guessed it.... More documentation.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2019 12:35 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 12:35:16 -0500

The Army will most likely send you to a Army doc for verification or just send the paperwork from your provider to the army doc for a review and stamp if approval. I would assume that the Army will send you for a third opinion... hopefully they don’t say you’re colorblind.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2019 6:05 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 06:05:45 -0500

You can go to the civilian doctor and get the letter stating that you are not color blind and then go to the military one and get a letter from them that states the same thing. Unfortunately you just have to keep on getting documents that states that. So that when you go to reclass they will have that in there but at that time you will probably need a waiver to be put through where they will ask for you guessed it more documentation.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2019 12:46 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:46:26 -0500

Let me clarify what I said, because it may have been vague.
Firs, you cannot ever change what the MEPS entered into your records. Those are permanent.
Second, you do not need to change what the MEPS entered into your records.

At no point in the CI application will anyone be going into your OMPF to pull you MEPS physical. I have helped put a lot of people into CI, and at no time has anyone ever had to provide their physicals. There is no code on your ERB or any other database that tracks if you are colorblind. That is voluntarily supplied information once you have left the MEPS. If you are not actually colorblind, you can submit your CI application. If you don't know if you are colorblind, there are tests online you can take that will tell you.

Response by SPC Nancy Greene made Nov 22 at 2019 1:20 AM

SPC Nancy Greene — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 01:20:31 -0500

Yes! Complete paperwork for an amendment to your record based upon “NEW”
Medical Information. Introduce this New Medical documentation as evidence! This Should make you eligible for re-classification, providing you meet the other requirements for this new MOS! If you need assistance, message me or call or text me: [login to see]
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Good Luck SPC Matthew Ferrer!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2019 3:49 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:49:52 -0500

If your MEPs paperwork said you were Red Green deficient, how did you get passed for 31B? From what I remember, you cannot be a 31B and have Red/Green vision issues.