How Did Government Bureaucrats Insult SOG Aviators Who Flew In Vietnam? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-did-government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators-who-flew-in-vietnam <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sent To Me By A friend Who I Flew With In Vietnam<br />Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 1:03 pm<br />Subject: Fwd: SOG Aviators disgraced<br /><br />Gents, <br />It took a while, but, here&#39;s the story on bureaucrats removing 11 words from the PUC issued to SOG April 4, 2001 at Ft. Bragg.<br /><br />Got this from a friend the other day &amp; just don&#39;t understand the logic in determining that under General Order 2013-07, the following words were removed from the original General Order 2001-25: “…and helicopters units of the U.S. Army and U.S. Marines Corps.” That was the only mention of Army and Marine helicopter units who fought so valiantly during that secret war.<br /><br />I did not know the original wording existed. This wonderfully written report gives more credit than did the original PUC, and I think the author deserves recognition for uncovering this insulting of revisionist history. Thank you, Mr. Meyer.<br /><br />Aviators flying support during the secret eight-year war in Laos, Cambodia, and North Vietnam had their heroic efforts erased by a small federal government agency in 2013, SOFREP has learned.<br /><br />Aviators flying support during the secret eight-year war in Laos, Cambodia, and North Vietnam had their heroic efforts erased by a small federal government agency in 2013, SOFREP has learned.<br />During that top-secret cross-border war fought from 1964 to 1972, Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Navy aircraft supported Green Berets and their indigenous counterparts running reconnaissance and other classified operations deep behind enemy lines under the aegis of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam—Studies and Observations Group, or simply SOG.<br />The secret war was a high-risk security operation hidden from the press, the public, most members of Congress, as well as the family members of special operations forces who ran these top-secret missions. SOG operated outside the normal chain of command, answering directly to the White House and a key staff member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.<br /><br />Read more: <a target="_blank" href="http://sofrep.com/42766/government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators/#ixzz3jwIgLLTw">http://sofrep.com/42766/government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators/#ixzz3jwIgLLTw</a><br />= <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/021/120/qrc/Tuong-e1440285637798.jpg?1443053093"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://sofrep.com/42766/government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators/#ixzz3jwIgLLTw">Government Bureaucrats Insult SOG Aviators | SOFREP</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Every aviator and Green Beret interviewed agreed: Removing those 11 words from the original award insulted the men killed during SOG missions.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Tue, 01 Sep 2015 14:19:48 -0400 How Did Government Bureaucrats Insult SOG Aviators Who Flew In Vietnam? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-did-government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators-who-flew-in-vietnam <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sent To Me By A friend Who I Flew With In Vietnam<br />Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 1:03 pm<br />Subject: Fwd: SOG Aviators disgraced<br /><br />Gents, <br />It took a while, but, here&#39;s the story on bureaucrats removing 11 words from the PUC issued to SOG April 4, 2001 at Ft. Bragg.<br /><br />Got this from a friend the other day &amp; just don&#39;t understand the logic in determining that under General Order 2013-07, the following words were removed from the original General Order 2001-25: “…and helicopters units of the U.S. Army and U.S. Marines Corps.” That was the only mention of Army and Marine helicopter units who fought so valiantly during that secret war.<br /><br />I did not know the original wording existed. This wonderfully written report gives more credit than did the original PUC, and I think the author deserves recognition for uncovering this insulting of revisionist history. Thank you, Mr. Meyer.<br /><br />Aviators flying support during the secret eight-year war in Laos, Cambodia, and North Vietnam had their heroic efforts erased by a small federal government agency in 2013, SOFREP has learned.<br /><br />Aviators flying support during the secret eight-year war in Laos, Cambodia, and North Vietnam had their heroic efforts erased by a small federal government agency in 2013, SOFREP has learned.<br />During that top-secret cross-border war fought from 1964 to 1972, Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Navy aircraft supported Green Berets and their indigenous counterparts running reconnaissance and other classified operations deep behind enemy lines under the aegis of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam—Studies and Observations Group, or simply SOG.<br />The secret war was a high-risk security operation hidden from the press, the public, most members of Congress, as well as the family members of special operations forces who ran these top-secret missions. SOG operated outside the normal chain of command, answering directly to the White House and a key staff member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.<br /><br />Read more: <a target="_blank" href="http://sofrep.com/42766/government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators/#ixzz3jwIgLLTw">http://sofrep.com/42766/government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators/#ixzz3jwIgLLTw</a><br />= <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/021/120/qrc/Tuong-e1440285637798.jpg?1443053093"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://sofrep.com/42766/government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators/#ixzz3jwIgLLTw">Government Bureaucrats Insult SOG Aviators | SOFREP</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Every aviator and Green Beret interviewed agreed: Removing those 11 words from the original award insulted the men killed during SOG missions.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> SGT Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 01 Sep 2015 14:19:48 -0400 2015-09-01T14:19:48-04:00 Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Sep 1 at 2015 2:39 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-did-government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators-who-flew-in-vietnam?n=932722&urlhash=932722 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nothing like supporting our veterans like taking away their accomplishments! Sad. SCPO David Lockwood Tue, 01 Sep 2015 14:39:10 -0400 2015-09-01T14:39:10-04:00 Response by MSG Brad Sand made Sep 1 at 2015 2:40 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-did-government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators-who-flew-in-vietnam?n=932725&urlhash=932725 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You are surprised the bureaucrats are bureaucrats? This is why the Federal government needs to pruned down to a proper size. MSG Brad Sand Tue, 01 Sep 2015 14:40:59 -0400 2015-09-01T14:40:59-04:00 Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Sep 1 at 2015 5:12 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-did-government-bureaucrats-insult-sog-aviators-who-flew-in-vietnam?n=933127&urlhash=933127 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A very interesting piece of history... MSgt Curtis Ellis Tue, 01 Sep 2015 17:12:10 -0400 2015-09-01T17:12:10-04:00 2015-09-01T14:19:48-04:00