How do I do an “European out”?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:35:11 -0400

I am currently stationed in Germany and will ets in about a year. I want to stay here if possible. I read about an “European out” that lets service members ets and still live in Germany. Does anyone know any information about this? How long can I stay in Germany with the European out? Can I get a job on post to stay here longer?

Response by GySgt Gary Cordeiro made Sep 23 at 2020 1:37 PM

GySgt Gary Cordeiro — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:37:26 -0400

Check with the US Embassy and JAG

Response by LTC Eugene Chu made Sep 23 at 2020 1:43 PM

LTC Eugene Chu — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:43:21 -0400

Ask any American GS civilians or contractors on your base if they are military veterans and what they did to stay.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Sep 23 at 2020 2:20 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 14:20:04 -0400

You can receive a European out. There are many factors associated, many of which are restrictions placed by the German Government. You can easily google information related to these requirements. As for hoping for a US job on base, the US has initiated a drawdown, with that will be more base closures. DOD civilians will be fighting for those remaining positions. The competition will be fierce. For the Germans you must prove you are not a financial liability, they you will be able to pay for or have medical coverage. To stay beyond a certain period you must show language proficiency etc. having a girlfriend, or even getting married does not resolve these requirements. As said by others seek guidance of this living there, and check with the German authorities.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 23 at 2020 4:44 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:44:56 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member Wishing You Luck and I Can Appreciate. I Truly Loved My 2 Weeks in Bad Aibling Germany.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Sep 23 at 2020 10:32 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 22:32:45 -0400

You will need to do some research on your end. Speak to S-1 and coordinate the military side. Make sure there aren't any loose ends on the military side. Speak to your nearest State Dept location whether that is a consulate or the Embassy. They should be able to point you in the correct direction for checking all of the German boxes for staying. If you are wanting to get a gov job start working on that now. It's a slow process. The good news is that even though some gov positions are reducing OCONUS positions are constantly in rotation because GS employees can only do OCONUS for 5 years before being rotated back to CONUS.