How do soldiers promote back to e4 after demotion to e3?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Oct 2022 08:44:39 -0400

According to the regs, once demoted a soldier has to serve their TIG to get their rank back however before that they start popping up on end of month reports for promotion. Is it possible for the command team to approve before their TIG?

Response by COL Randall C. made Oct 22 at 2022 9:02 AM

COL Randall C. — Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:02:01 -0400

duplicate thread from 2019 - https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-a-demoted-soldier-eligible-for-a-waiver-to-e-4

(edited) -- *sigh* ... trust but verify info provided by your "smooth as silk" PAC NCO.

Is a demoted soldier eligible for a waiver to E-4? | RallyPoint

My Coc is working on getting me promoted, I was demoted with Field Grade Article 15 from E-3 to E-1 in year 2017, I did TIG made my rank back to E-3 current, and S1 told me that soldier with history of rank reduction is not eligible for waiver to SPC. Is this true? What my knowledge is that once I make back my previous rank, then I should be back on normal track of my rank.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2022 10:04 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Oct 2022 10:04:14 -0400

No
Any Soldier previously reduced must be fully qualified (without waiver) for promotion to the next higher rank.
AR 600-8-19 ch 2-3

but then, you said yourself "according to regs" so you must have read this, why are you second guessing it?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2022 11:12 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:12:16 -0400

Waivers are not authorized for Soldiers who lost rank from an Article 15. If rank is reduced from an Article 15, they MUST serve the full TIG requirements (again) IOT advance to the next grade. If the Command is approving advancement to the next ran prior to their meeting TIG after having lost their rank, that sounds like a waiver is being given. Which is a no-no per regs.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Oct 22 at 2022 3:07 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Sat, 22 Oct 2022 15:07:27 -0400

Simply, their Command has to decide if they are worth another chance- there are No automatic promotions because Command always has to approve them, so TIS isn't really appilicable.