Posted on Apr 8, 2014
SSgt Eric B. Cole
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With the many tragic events that happen due to gun violence in all branches of service, how do we address it and stop it before it happens within our bases? Should all soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines have their arms readily at-hand or should a select few be assigned to reactionary teams during certain hours of the 24-hour cycle for different sectors of the command or base?  Or is it a training awareness issue? 


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MSG Jose Colon
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Playing devil's advocate, I could say that it is not easy, maybe almost impossible to detect mental illness among our ranks because we are used to see it, and consider it normal.

 

Sometimes we see our Soldiers acting crazy, shake our heads, and go about our business. We try to be s gung ho and mission oriented that we disregard the human side of soldiering.

 

This guy who killed those people in Hood, he was given 1 day to go to her mother's funeral. Later, they extended it to two days.

 

I am not trying to blame anyone, but sometimes we have no clue about what we are doing. Being Puerto Rican, like the guy that did the massacre in Fort Hood, I can tell you that I told my supervisor and my S1 in 1997 to get ready to declare me AWOL because my mother had suffered a heart attack on Saturday, it was Tuesday, and my leave had not being approved. I was a SFC at the time, and she died on my way to see her.

 

Was it PTSD, or mental illness? Or was it lousy leadership? We might never know.

 

But my thoughts to you are:

 

1. Be aware of your surroundings.

 

2. Being aware of your surroundings also include being aware of your troops emotions.

 

3. Being emotional is not a mental illness and it is not being a coward.

 

4. Consider that people experience tragedy in different ways.

 

5. How you deal with tragedy when you are in combat, s totally different of how you deal with it in Garrison. There is no reason to give 1 day leave in Garrison to someone who is grieving. If you are so worried about him returning, send someone with him, If he is that indispensable, you are doing something wrong as a leader.

 

 

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SSgt Eric B. Cole
SSgt Eric B. Cole
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I agree with all of your points as they are presented.  While this forum gives me the opportunity to pose such a question from my retired perspective, it is presented to open up the dialog amongst leadership and followers as well as to the best way to try and get our arms around an ever increasing aspect of military life.   Whether it be caused by the normal expected routine things that happen in war or peace time, it seems to be happening more often.  I will be the first to admit that such events occurred during my time form 78-98, but maybe there is a training and awareness process that could be put in placed so that leadership on all levels can deal with these situations as we become aware of them.  There are already some best used practices in place in the civilian community that I se that they are using and did use during the recent event at Ft. Hood. (i.e., secure in-place)  But these are reactionary to the incident after the breakdown be it emotional or mental.  I appreciate your points a view, thanks for engaging.  we obviously, have much to do if the facts bear out what you are purporting took place regarding leave for death in ones family (not that excuses the loss of losing one single member of our military family).  Which bring me back to the mental stability of our personnel, and how we measure it against the propensity of dangerous behavior... 
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MSG Jose Colon
MSG Jose Colon
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Point well taken. We cannot surrender in the fight to find the triggers and reasons for the change of behavior of otherwise reasonable individuals.
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SSG Mike Angelo
SSG Mike Angelo
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Bring back personal counseling. Train NCOs to recognize signs of stress, anger,fake smiles, irrational thought,loner attributes are all part of the personal and professional leadership and intervention.

Not all leaders respond to personal counseling the same way, due to their own personal design, attributes and behavior.
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It can be very tough. I don't consider myself mentally ill, but I do have anxiety, sleep issues (who doesn't?) and have barely started to see behavioral health for them because it was always drilled in that you don't show your weaknesses. I'm only 35 days from my ETS and barely starting to get things checked out. I keep everything hidden inside and I know a lot of people who do the exact same thing, unfortunately.
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What irks me the most is that not only are they unpredictable, but they have no concern for others. I haven't heard much, but it sounds like the situation in Camp Lejeune is one that these were the people that would have been armed anyway.

There is not always tell-tell signs. Sometimes it is the ones you least expected. How can be sure its not those ones on the teams that would go berserk? Just for the record, I am all for being able to carry, as often times bystanders have been able to quickly deescalate the situation. Though more people would have more access to more weapons, it would more than likely balance itself out. Those looking to harm many probably see our bases as lined with sitting ducks. If those ducks were armed, they may either think twice or maybe get away with hitting one or two before they go down. 
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