How does a permanent profile work?

2019-12-03T01:10:28-05:00

So I've been on and off profile for back and knees and me and my nco are trying to figure out how many days or months before I go on a perm I was on a consecutive one for 2-3 months and on and off prior

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2019 1:13 AM

2019-12-03T01:13:45-05:00

You need to speak with your military medical provider and see if they will write one up.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Dec 3 at 2019 11:40 AM

2019-12-03T11:40:05-05:00

Look, you could have a million temp profiles w/o getting a permanent. Only your medical folks can decide if you rate a perm or not.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2019 11:45 AM

2019-12-03T11:45:46-05:00

That is up to your medical provider to write you one or not. There is no specific time period to get one. It's determined by having a discussion with your provider if that's the best course of action for treatment.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Dec 3 at 2019 1:32 PM

2019-12-03T13:32:56-05:00

I had a permanent profile requiring me to wear glasses.
It never got me out of the mud. How's that explanation?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2019 2:44 PM

2019-12-03T14:44:05-05:00

They nailed below, you can have all the temp profiles the PA or who ever can write, to go on a permanent profile you will need to be scheduled with a Military Doctor who is a specialist in your problem in this case orthopedics I would guess. If they deem that a permanent profile is the only way to go he will write it. When the put me on mine for walking the good Major said it was a permanent profile or surgery and he would only give surgery a 10% chance of working so he would not do it and told me the permanent was what he was leaning toward.

Response by SPC Stewart Smith made Dec 3 at 2019 7:43 PM

2019-12-03T19:43:36-05:00

There's absolutely no possible way you can get a permanent profile. None. It's impossible.
If you don't believe me, go ask your medical examiner.

Response by SSG Dale London made Dec 4 at 2019 11:07 PM

2019-12-04T23:07:33-05:00

I didn't get a permanent profile until after I'd been before the MOS Medical Review Board.

Response by SSG Elyzabeth Cromer made Nov 28 at 2022 11:37 PM

2022-11-28T23:37:32-05:00

If you want the actual answer AR 40-501 and AR 40-502 are the places to look for the full and detailed answer. (This answer is not applicable to IET, we all know the things they do there are not the same as the rest of the Army.) Briefly at the end of a temporary profile a provider either clears you for return to full duty, or extends your profile. Profiles for injuries do not just go poof and disappear, you see your provider, and turn in the paperwork to the designated MEDPROS clerk. Keep a copy! Your profile will be be updated. The maximum time limit on a temporary profile is 365 days, that is the Administrative Medical Retention Determination Point. At that time the Service Member must be medically cleared or issued a permanent profile. In the event a permanent profile is issued the Service Member is must be referred to the medical board process, PEB, MAR2, etc. This does not mean that the soldier will be discharged or found to be non-deployable.
This process protects the Service Member and the Command. There are some who still think that telling a post partum or injured SM to "suck it up" builds character, no it causes additional and sometimes permanent harm. Do not violate your profile! You cannot train to overcome a torn tendon; in an emergency situation adrenaline will kick in, but a tendon that never properly healed may fail you in that same emergency.

Response by PVT Ted Rodosovich made Dec 22 at 2022 8:04 AM

2022-12-22T08:04:36-05:00

Orthotics