How does the army calculate time in service for members who transfer from Active duty to National guard or vice versa

2014-09-19T15:04:44-04:00

For members who currently was active duty that switch over to the National guard.... how does the time get implemeted to when they can retire knowing it's 20 years for a retirement in Active and 30 years for National Guard

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2014 1:28 AM

2014-09-21T01:28:44-04:00

You can retire from the National Guard at twenty years. As long as you don't have a break in service, it will be 20 years from your PEBD.

Response by SFC Stephen P. made Sep 21 at 2014 1:35 PM

2014-09-21T13:35:14-04:00

Active to RC:
1 day of active duty = 1 retirement point (points also awarded for inactive duty, correspondence courses, and membership)
50 retirement points in a year is a qualifying year for non-regular retirement.
20 qualifying years authorizes non-regular retirement at age 60.

For RC to AC:
Subtract all and only active duty points from the date of accession to adjust the BASD. Inactive duty points are only factored in with the percentage at retirement.

Basic formula (for regular and non-regular retirement):
Average of the highest 36 months of base pay (for most of us anyway) X retirement points / 365 * 2.5%

Response by 1SG David Niles made Oct 26 at 2014 8:19 PM

2014-10-26T20:19:04-04:00

I was going to answer, but it has already been answered. Sfc Stephen P has the right answer.

Response by SGM Ron Crump made Nov 29 at 2014 5:46 PM

2014-11-29T17:46:55-05:00

Well first off it is not 30 years for the Guard/Reserve. It is still 20 years. The points you earn for (active/guard/reserve) are totaled up and multiplied by a %factor based on the number of years served TOTAL. That and your pay grade at retirement determine your retired pay. I have over 6700 points and will get about $3100 a month at age 60. Don't get me started on that tangent. still gripes me that it has never changed since 1949.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2014 10:19 PM

2014-11-30T22:19:14-05:00

I would like to let you know about 2 web sites. They are both from Army Human Recourses Command but they apply to all services. The first is a retirement calculator this will do the math that SFC Stephen P. gave for you and the second is information about the NDAA for 2008 which authorized early retirement pay (not other retirement benefits) for being called up while in the Reserves or National Guard.
The NDAA for 2008 reduces the retirement age for Reserve Component (RC) Soldiers from 60 to a lesser age, but not below age 50, for those who have served on Active Duty (AD) in an eligible status on or after 29 Jan 08.
https://www.hrc.army.mil/calculators/retirementcalc.aspx

https://www.hrc.army.mil/TAGD/REDUCED%20AGE%20RETIREMENT

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2015 8:55 PM

2015-06-04T20:55:46-04:00

SGT Private RallyPoint Member, it's done on a point basis. Let's start with Active Duty. You get one point per day of service. At 20 years, you get 2.5% of your base pay for every year, or 50% total. If you serve 21 years, you get 52.5%

Guard and Reserves get 2 point for every day of drill time (that's our weekend training assemblies) plus 1 point for every day of active duty, plus 15 membership points and points for schooling. Except for active duty points, there is a cap on how many we can get. (It used to be 90, but I've been out for a while and it may have changed.)

So take me for example. 38 years total service, of which just over 26 counted (for various reasons.) I earned 4200 points. Divide 4200 by 365 means I get credit for just under 12 years of active duty service. 12 times 2.5 comes to 30% of my base pay as my retirement pay. But another penalty we pay is that I can't draw my retirement pay until I turn 60 years of age.

Now it is possible to go the other way. If you serve your last 8 years on active duty, then you get to retire from active duty at the active duty pay rate, assuming you had 12 good years before hand. So if you joined the Guard, served 12 years, then managed to go active and serve 8 more, you could retire as if you had done the entire 20 on active. I have never heard of anyone who managed it.

Response by CSM Thomas McGarry made Nov 9 at 2016 4:41 PM

2016-11-09T16:41:27-05:00

30 years? Unless it's changed which I highly doubt it is 20 years combined Active/Reserve/Guard duty. If you don't have 20 years Active duty you don't start collecting until you turn age 60.

Response by PO1 Richard Nyberg made Mar 31 at 2019 2:07 PM

2019-03-31T14:07:33-04:00

I got out of the Army in 1975 and went into the reserves and Year and a half later in 1976 I enlisted in the Navy and retired 11 yrs later. I was told that my reserve time counted for retirement but not pay. I had to do an extra year before I retired.