Posted on May 30, 2020
how hard is it to prove a contract marriage?
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I have been told that people in my command/ platoon suspect I am in a sham marriage, with no proof other than them having suspicions and them "knowing" my husband. How hard is it for them to prove this after conducting a 15-6 which did not involve people in my last battalion? (I am a "rehab" transfer due to a SHARP case).
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If you have a legal marriage document (certificate, contract) from a US government entity, such as a US State or County, then you and your spouse are just that, married. Other people's opinion of your marriage isn't your problem. It's you and your spouse's responsibility to make the marriage work for you both. If you are having problems with the marriage relationship, I encourage you to seek counseling through the Chaplain, mental health clinic, or a civilian source.
I highly recommend Christian counseling, but this may not fit with your beliefs. My wife and I went through a difficult time at about the 10 year mark. We received good counseling and decided to work it out. We've now been married almost 55 years.
I highly recommend Christian counseling, but this may not fit with your beliefs. My wife and I went through a difficult time at about the 10 year mark. We received good counseling and decided to work it out. We've now been married almost 55 years.
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I have looked into counseling for us as we have issues now that are brought from us being in the same unit (we were in separate battalions before the SHARP case moved me).
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I never once questioned one of my sailor's marriages. If they had the paperwork, that is all that mattered to me. I do not understand all of the Army things you are talking about, but my advice is this: go talk to the JAG and the Chaplains (not for religious advice, but they have practical advice on how to deal with these situations as they have seen them over and over). If your command is hassling you over this, the IG may need to be involved, but go to the JAG and Chaps first.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SPC(P) (Join to see) - No one can stop you from seeing the chaplain. Like they can't stop you from going to EO or SHARP. Just go to the unit chaplain or any chaplain. Go to EO.
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LT Brad McInnis
SPC(P) (Join to see) - Sounds like you have good notes. Not sure how the IG's work in the Army, but also keep in mind going the congressional route as a last resort. I hate to see Congress getting involved, but if your COC is letting you down it is your right. Would probably go with a Senator over Representative. Had better luck with them over the years. Send them a letter detailing the issues, and they are required to respond. A phone call can be blown off, but not correspondence, as it becomes an official part of the Senator's office.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
LT Brad McInnis - I feel like there are steps that haven't been taken yet that could rectify this. JAG, EO...going above her chain of command. Like if this is a company command issue, go to battalion. If it's battalion command, go to brigade. Open door policy.
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LT Brad McInnis
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - I agree, it should be a last resort. You army types have some weird stuff us Navy folks don't understand. But, the one common rule, is SM's can see JAGs and Chaps when they want. Everything should be handled inside the lifelines, but when you need to go outside, you shouldn't be stopped.
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There’s no such thing as a sham marriage. If you are married it is a legally binding agreement and there are responsibilities that go with that. For instance, providing financial support for your spouse and fidelity. The Army doesn’t care who you marry or why, only that once you do you conduct yourself as a married person.
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Do you know what to do being the commander filed a 15-6 investigation, has a no contact order for my spouse and I and have asked only people of the new unit I am in rather than my past unit? I have told them we have a valid marriage license but they don’t want to see it. They just keep saying it’s a sham
Marriage and have us under ucmj 143 and 142
Marriage and have us under ucmj 143 and 142
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SPC(P) (Join to see) - You need to go see a lawyer at JAG on your base. I don't know why you haven't been to JAG yet.
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