How is TIS calculated for a promotion to SSG (Prior Guard) in Active Duty?

2019-11-13T20:38:24-05:00

Received some rough information today about what I thought was just a bureacratic error.

A little upfront information:

I am in an E6 position as a Howitzer Section Chief at FT. Bliss
I was in the Guard for 7 years, and have been Active Duty at FT. Bliss for over a year and a half. I have already received my (P) status at the promotion board, and have already completed ALC.

I was told Army promotion requirements for Time in Service are not based on Time in Service, but Time in Federal service (or the BASD on your ERB)

So despite having the same MOS I had in the Guard 13B, I believe only my 2 week Annual Trainings, AIT, and Basic Training counted towards my active time.

So instead of getting promoted in the next month as I thought, I will have to wait 2 more years to get promoted if this information is correct.

An E4 who hypothetically would get promoted on todays date, would be able to reach SSG before me. I did know that switching from the Guard to active would put me behind on retirement, but I didn't know it would hinder career progression so immensely.

Regardless, I am still happy that I switched to active duty, but cant imagine reenlisting and being at such a disadvantage for future promotions.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2019 8:44 PM

2019-11-13T20:44:52-05:00

AR 600-20 Chapter entitled Enlisted Date of Rank

Response by CSM Danny S. made Nov 13 at 2019 8:53 PM

2019-11-13T20:53:49-05:00

Your adjusted time in service is most likely taking your total number of points received in the National Guard and dividing them by 365 then adding it to your years of active service. I can't say for sure this is the case. What does your LES say for years of service? This will give you a hint of how they did the conversion.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2019 10:38 PM

2019-11-13T22:38:45-05:00

Similar boat, same MOS, still waiting to meet required AFS for promotion. Was ARNG for 7 years and went AD. Cannot make SSG until another 2 years. The TIS stays the same, however AFS is not much, which is realistic taking into account one drill a month, one AT in the summer.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2019 10:42 PM

2019-11-13T22:42:09-05:00

Want a more steady career progression, go Warrant. Either way good luck man.

Response by CSM Michael Chavaree made Nov 14 at 2019 10:26 AM

2019-11-14T10:26:29-05:00

I had my CC guy compute my NG time and it changed my TIS dates. Make sure you have all your active orders and get your stuff added, may make a little difference.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2019 7:16 PM

2019-11-14T19:16:30-05:00

From what you described, you have been given correct information. Your Career Counselor is the SME here. Feel free to ask them for clarification if you need.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2019 2:30 PM

2019-11-16T14:30:01-05:00

I was prior guard and can tell you that the only time that counted toward my active time was BCT, AIT, mobilization and deployments. None of my weekends or AT counted. Hope that helps.