Posted on Jan 27, 2020
How likely am I to have an opportunity for Air Assault and EFMB as a NG 68W? Can these or other advanced training be built into a contract?
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I am 34 yrs old and was burned pretty hard by a NG recruiter about 15 years ago, but I got out of a RSP before BCT. I want some redemption from that and it's likely that I will have to make some career adjustments soon. My wife has applied for the job of a lifetime and will likely get it, we have a 1 year old daughter and I own a small business in a town that we would have to leave. I am a very driven individual and I will be coming in with soldiers almost half my age, it's important to me that I can quickly build in options for advancement in both the Army and civilian workforce. In my mind, AA and EFMB will give me a leg up in both. My recruiter seems like a decent guy but so far I haven't received a hard NO on anything but I haven't gotten a confident yes either. My experience tells me that I'm not going to hear anything that might deter me, it's not likely that it would but I do need to pick my best options before I sign on to any MOS and to leave my family.
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Are you talking about enlisting NG or Regular Army?
NG recruiter will not guarantee anything but Basic Training and AIT (whatever MOS in your contract). After your initial entry training, everything else is up you your unit and their willingness to spend money on individual training rather than collective. You will be disappointed with what they will justifiable do: collective training.
Regular Army, in the other hand, you can have Basic Parachute School written one your contract and EFMB will come within the first few years after been in your 1st duty station; which will anywhere in the world the Army will need you.
NG recruiter will not guarantee anything but Basic Training and AIT (whatever MOS in your contract). After your initial entry training, everything else is up you your unit and their willingness to spend money on individual training rather than collective. You will be disappointed with what they will justifiable do: collective training.
Regular Army, in the other hand, you can have Basic Parachute School written one your contract and EFMB will come within the first few years after been in your 1st duty station; which will anywhere in the world the Army will need you.
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Geoffrey Manning
I was really gunning for Active Duty but it's not in the cards for me. I've got to make the most of NG. There is a chance that I move to active duty after some time with the NG.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
Understood Geoffrey Manning. Just be aware that switching from NG to Regular Army is not a walk in the park. Your NG unit (State) needs to release you and that, although it happens, is not something they are happy of doing. Is a numbers game!
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If you do get AA make sure you're in shape before heading off to AA. Zero day course is a solid 5 or 6 on the "WTF" meter.
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SPC David S.
SFC (Join to see) - but he doesn't know that. Packing list in reality is the thing to look out for. There must have half a dozen sent packing - "brown gloves aren't black gloves"
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Um, the short answer is probably El Zippo on both if your in the National Guard. Probably why your Recruiter has not been all that enthusiastic at embracing either when you bring it up. It's not completely hopeless though, they have Air Assault NG units across the country, ask your Recruiter to find the one closest to you out of curiousity. Thats not to say they will pay for AA school it could mean they only accept former RA folks that have AA school already. If they do pay for AA school they are going to expect something in return like a specific enlistment term. It is true that other non-AA units do sometimes get the benefit of AA school but I would bet that is pretty rare. As for EFMB, like the EIB, that stuff does not happen in the National Guard......only the Regular Army. The reason being is it takes so much time to prepare and certify a course for EFMB or EIB. Then it takes a long time to administer it. In order for a NG unit to participate in something like that you would have to go on orders for 30-45 days Active. I don't see any state paying for that. Possibly you could get a 2-3 year transfer to Active Duty as part of your NG contract and try for both via that (get assigned to the 101st Airborne in Kentucky......your best shot at both EFMB and AA in one Active Army tour). Anyhow my two cents. Spent 2 years NG and 3 Active Duty all in Infantry........a long time ago.
Just for reference for you on the EIB which is somewhat similar to EFMB in general framework but not specifics:
1. Recent weapons qualification must be officially recorded: (1-2 weeks at a range, plus 20-40 days lead time for reservation of range and range control people and ammo supply coordination)
2. Recent PT Test for record and recorded for record: (1-2 depending on how many fail, first event).
3. 12 mile road march in less than 3 hours (1 full day, a week to prepare for it though, min).
4. Multi station hands on test: (2-3 days dry run, 1 day for record. up to 20 days to prep)
Just for reference for you on the EIB which is somewhat similar to EFMB in general framework but not specifics:
1. Recent weapons qualification must be officially recorded: (1-2 weeks at a range, plus 20-40 days lead time for reservation of range and range control people and ammo supply coordination)
2. Recent PT Test for record and recorded for record: (1-2 depending on how many fail, first event).
3. 12 mile road march in less than 3 hours (1 full day, a week to prepare for it though, min).
4. Multi station hands on test: (2-3 days dry run, 1 day for record. up to 20 days to prep)
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