Posted on Nov 1, 2018
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I have been at the same unit since commissioning so I don’t know what all is involved with a unit transfer and there’s a chance that I may be transferring to a unit closer to where I’m currently attending veterinary school. The glitch is that I’m only in this location for about another year and then I’d have to transfer units again when I get my location where I have to complete clinicals. I’m just curious what that process is like and how long it takes to go through.
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The transfer process is a checklist, DA 4651, and two counsellings. Once you have your signatures, CDR's signatures and the ARCC signature the packet goes up through the chain to your Readiness Division. About two to four weeks.
Typically you stay in your unit for at least a year but there's no real minimum.
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Transfers should not take long, now you do not even need a CDRs counseling anymore since they sign the DA 4651. It also depends on where you are transferring to and if there is a common unit within the hierarchy, if you are transferring in the same brigade it could take a day if you are transferring within the division it could take a week. If all the paper is correct and put in the system in a timely manner it should not take long, if it is not correct it could take some time.
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My RPAC is telling me that there are "other substantiating documents that need to be done" on top of my 4651 and counseling statement. We've already spent the past 3 weeks fixing clerical issues on the 4651, and I'm starting to get impatient because it hasn't even been sent up in ePAT yet. Apparently, according to RPAC, "its like building a promotion packet. There's a bunch of other papers that I won't even see that need to get put into the packet before its sent up". I thought it was a simple 4651 & counseling. Not sure what I can do to get the paperwork up the chain. I'm starting to get impatient. Any advice Ma'am?
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Is there a current regulation that states you don’t need a CDR counseling. Sometimes units play games unless the soldier state a regulation.
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It’s been a while but, I’m pretty sure it’s only about four documents. The checklist, 4651, commander and, retention counseling. I’ve never heard of it being more or that you have to build docs out that you never see.
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I have been through reserve units at the lower enlisted level and the transfers have never gone smoothly for me mam. Some of it was my fault, no doubt. Yet, I spoke to NCOs who hard horror stories of how painful some unit transfers were, sometimes causing so many problems they took over 15 months.

My big take away is that the transfer can depend heavily on how well you engage your chain of command in your process and how quickly you get the paperwork pushed out.
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My RPAC is telling me that there are "other substantiating documents that need to be done" on top of my 4651 and counseling statement. We've already spent the past 3 weeks fixing clerical issues on the 4651, and I'm starting to get impatient because it hasn't even been sent up in ePAT yet. Apparently, according to RPAC, "its like building a promotion packet. There's a bunch of other papers that I won't even see that need to get put into the packet before its sent up". I thought it was a simple 4651 & counseling. Not sure what I can do to get the paperwork up the chain. I'm starting to get impatient. Any advice?
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SGT (Join to see) I'm sorry to hear that. I hope it gets resolved sooner rather than later.

Without being able to hear the exact details behind the scenes, I couldn't say what's true or what's not. Not my area. I would say however that general advice applies here.

First, talk to your NCOs, don't just communicate the facts but ask for their help and win them over. Second, talk to your higher ups: your commanders, etc., through the proper channels. Half the time, a difficult situation is resolved by having someone with rank come in to support you.

It's generic advice because it's essentially "talk to your leadership." But honestly that's the key in almost every Army problem, communication and teamwork.
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