How long does it take to be chaptered out for failure to pass PFT?

Alyssa Cox — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:07:57 -0400

Okay so, my boyfriend has failed his PT test multiple times and was told about 2 weeks ago that he is being chaptered out. Can anyone tell me about how long this process takes? He has already completed the online courses and tests, the hearing and vision test and is scheduled for his physical on the 23rd of this month. What all does he have left to complete? He has asked his command how long the process will take but no one will tell him anything. He is currently in VA at AIT schooling.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2020 12:26 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:26:07 -0400

I've seen these chapters take as little as a few months to as long as 2 years. It will all depend on the packet and how accurate it is (there is a checklist) and how long it takes for each level of his command to review it and find no errors. If there are errors and/or documents missing, then the packet is sent back down to his unit and the process starts all over. If he is sitting at AIT, it could be about a month or so. But that's a guess. The process is the process. There is no actual hard predictability as to how long it will take.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2020 12:39 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:39:02 -0400

The most popular answer you will receive here is: "It Depends". There is nothing in the military that sates, how long chapters take. I know that's not the answer you want to hear but its the truth. Too many variables involved for anyone to give you an honest answer. If someone does give you an exact answer they are full of it. MSG Private RallyPoint Member was right on. So to answer your original question. It depends!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2020 12:48 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:48:27 -0400

It takes as long as it takes for them to get around to it. An APFT chapter is very low priority

Response by CW4 David Surles made Mar 11 at 2020 12:51 PM

CW4 David Surles — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:51:10 -0400

The real answer is not soon enough. The minimum standards to pass the PFT are really not that demanding and with very little effort are achievable.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Mar 11 at 2020 1:27 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 13:27:34 -0400

Assuming he is no longer inside 180 days of active duty.
The likely separation chapter will be chapter 13
Unsatisfactory Performance – Chapter 13
Generall "WHAT MUST THE COMMAND DO?
Adequate counseling and rehabilitation efforts must be made before your Commander can initiate separation. You should not be separated for unsatisfactory performance as a sole basis unless there have been efforts to rehabilitate you. Once it is determined that separation under this paragraph is warranted, your Commander will take actions specified in the Notification Procedures, Chapter 2, AR 635-200. This action can only be initiated when you are under military control unless confined by civil authorities and your military records indicate that you should be processed for separation by reason of unsatisfactory performance."

https://home.army.mil/monterey/application/files/5715/4955/1549/chapter_13_info_paper.pdf

"efforts to rehabilitate "
Is a grey area, effectively it means what ever the separation authority says it does. And that criteria must be known and upheld by the unit...
In most units it would be counselling, APFT administered by a set of test personal who have been "certified" It would include interviews with the unit PA, Master fitness trainer , a training plan for improvement and "reasonable" time to improve performance ..again reasonable means what the separation authority says it does the unit simply complies..So that could be 30 days, 90 days, 180 days and improvement could be 1 point increase of passing score.

This all will(should be) laid out to your solder in a counseling document which will include a plan of action. If your soldier does not have this he unit is not doing the job well, or your soldier is not being truthful.

chapter_13_info_paper.pdf

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Response by PO1 M. Chandler made Mar 11 at 2020 10:30 PM

PO1 M. Chandler — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 22:30:40 -0400

Depends how popular he is with leadership. Can carry pt failures around a while (2years) If they don't like him, he could be gone fast.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2020 1:18 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:18:45 -0400

Sounds like someone got cold feet.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Mar 12 at 2020 12:35 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 12:35:59 -0400

Honest answer? Depends on the Soldier.

Soldier A (hard worker, smart, liked by chain of command):
Paperwork will likely be dragged on indefinitely so long as the Soldier is an asset. Will probably stay in long enough to pass the APFT and the chapter will go away.

Soldier B (problem child, attitude problem, pain in the ass):
Chain will prioritize pushing the paperwork, will start SFL TAP appointments immediately, expect to be leaving quickly.

Response by PFC Buck Johnson made Mar 13 at 2020 8:12 PM

PFC Buck Johnson — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 20:12:01 -0400

I'm guessing your boyfriend is a Fuck up and tried to save face by saying he couldn't pass the PT test...

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2020 11:04 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:04:24 -0400

It takes a long time depends on how fast they want to move on it. I’ve seen it take up to a year.