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MCPO Roger Collins
About as long as it takes Hillary to turn the USA into Venezuela, a banana Republic with a despot as the President.
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TSgt Frank Shirley - Yeah, that's what at it was about. Really put some thought into that post, did you?
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LCDR Ryan Haag - What you Doug in my old homestead, Groton? Spent lots of time there on the boats (submarines) for the landlubbers.
MCPO Roger Collins
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LCDR Ryan Haag - Much of my career was based out of the Subase. Good location until winter starts.

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CPO Utilitiesman
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You my BROTHER, Nailed it!
CPO Hospital Corpsman
About as long as it takes a 1LT to say "It's been my experience....."
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Sorry for the grammar, phone doesn't want to cooperate.
MSG Dan Castaneda
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SFC William Farrell - Maybe in your research, or military experience, you should have learned how to address a SGM and it's not with "sarge."
PO2 Floyd Fowler
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1LT Sandy Annala - why would ever put such a bias opinion on here it's one thing to be considered intelligent, and then open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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PO2 Floyd Fowler - I found the cartoon thought provoking. With respect to the opinion of people who matter to me . . . their opinion remains exceptionally supportive!!! Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
CPT Jack Durish
This is precisely the same narrative that was used to vilify Reagan
PO3 Donald Murphy
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You're right - it wasn't diplomacy that killed the Soviets. Tomahawk, 688 Class Submarines and Trident were the real eaters of the Soviet budget. And sadly, those come from Carter. Carter's goal was to actually get rid of the WW2 era ships and technology that we were still using! Reagan however, kept it all which the USN is still paying for to this day. The Soviets were spending most of their money in ASW tech. Tomahawk made every single missile-firing ship a "first strike" weapon. With Tomahawk's 1000+ mile nautical range, any aircraft could launch it from outside Soviet missile/AAA range. This now made USA West coast AFB's "first strike." The Cold War was a money war and the Soviets were broke.

Unlike Reagan, Bush knew that "winning the Cold War" was a double edged sword. With no "enemy" we'd have to start killing businesses and industry as well, right? So Bush took us successfully from having bottomless pockets to suddenly having no money. Clinton's "financial miracle" could not have happened without Bush. A lot of liberal money-critics miss that little nugget. Bush - former CIA - knew how to keep the Soviets fed with just the right bits of intel to keep them spending, while meanwhile retiring ships, giving early-outs to personnel, etc.
CPT Jack Durish
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PO3 Donald Murphy - You are in good company. There are many who dance around history trying desperately to demean Reagan's legacy. However, I've never before seen anyone go so far as to credit Carter. That is a real leap for which I'm sure some would give you a Gold Star. I won't. Next, given your dates of service, it's likely that you weren't of an age to be aware of the Cold War. I lived through it and can assure you that winning it was no "double-edged sword". And, no, ending it wasn't a calamity in any sense of the word. I live in California which suffered the loss of many lucrative defense contracts when it ended. However, in just two years defense contractors had switched to other endeavors and not only replaced the lost income and jobs, but added to them with new endeavors in technology and communications.
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CPT Jack Durish - Ummm...nice but...

1. Preferring Bush's policy's over Reagan's is not "demeaning Reagan." Sorry if you took it to mean that. I voted for Ronnie in my first election. No demeaning meant. Just because I say I liked Bush the Elder and preferred his "style" doesn't mean that I feel FDR was a lousy president, Lincoln was lousy, etc.

2. Next, ships don't build themselves. Reagan's "600 ship navy" was predominantly laid down in the 70's. Any google info will give you ship dates. Takes four years to build a ship in the 1980's. And Carter approved the major chunks. And the nukes.

3. I joined the Navy in 1985 so yes, I was "there" during the Cold War. And for the record, I was eating most of your money as most of the defense budget for the USA was Navy submarines baby. Thats right. A billion a sub before you Army and Air Force guys knew what an expensive weapon was, ha ha. Carriers only dreamed of the money we got. Our wives even got treatment/care that the rest of military spouses didn't, like dental and vision.

4. Your answer vindicates my answer. California changed. Yes it did. Due to Bush policies. The nation successfully beat swords into plowshares. The only casualty from the Cold War ending was that CHAMPUS died due to too many people being "let go" as quickly as they were. The system was flooded. Yes, Captain, double edge sword. If you have no enemy, you can't dump billions into plane contracts anymore. Is the F-35 - realistically - any more trouble fraught than the F-15? Or the F-16? No, but there was a Cold War going on when those two birds were built. Your answer can't be any other way or else the Soviet Union would have "survived" having no enemy, right?
SFC Domingo M.
SFC Domingo M.
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We have to realize that she is a millennial. A product of our current liberal education system. She has a ways to go before she can lay claim to any real experience. The same goes for today's society.

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