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SPC Bob Stone — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 04:06:59 -0400

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 15 at 2021 4:12 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 04:12:05 -0400

Response by SSG Laurie Mullen made Jul 15 at 2021 5:07 AM

SSG Laurie Mullen — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 05:07:50 -0400

You would have a very hard time, if any, of going back in as an enlisted so they certainly aren't going to take you in as an Officer.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 15 at 2021 6:36 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 06:36:20 -0400

You would need a moral waiver. You have almost zero chance of becoming an officer if you enlist and apply to OCS in a few years after winning some Soldier of the Year boards and getting great recommendations. You have zero chance of accessing as an officer if you were separated for misconduct

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jul 15 at 2021 7:58 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:58:38 -0400

I believe your hesitancy provides the answer. Having said that the only way to know is to try. RE Code 3 is almost insurmountable.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Jul 15 at 2021 9:12 AM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:12:31 -0400

It'll be an uphill battle to say the least. I don't think you can make it happen but talk to a recruiter and get the straight scoop from them.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Jul 15 at 2021 10:07 AM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:07:46 -0400

Needs of the Army, you would need to present something to the Army they really need to bring you back. No serious conflict going on, highly unlikely to happen.

Response by SFC Jeremy Boyd made Jul 15 at 2021 12:16 PM

SFC Jeremy Boyd — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 12:16:08 -0400

If it's not completely a 0% chance, then it would be no higher than a 1% chance. I'll provide an anecdote. During my original "voluntold" recruiting tour, I was processing my first ever OCS applicant in January of 2008. He had recently graduated from Colgate College, outstanding GPA throughout high school AND college, had been an Eagle Scout, sparkling letters of recommendation, and had never been in any real trouble in his life. He only had a single minor non-traffic charge, which he received in college, a ticket issued by campus police because he was caught pissing against a tree outside while walking home from a party. Mind you, this was no misdemeanor or felony, which are classified as misconduct and major misconduct charges within AR 601-210.

I had to process a moral waiver for approval for that before I could send him to the OCS board. That waiver had to go to the CG of USAREC, which is a level usually reserved for major misconduct charges. Minor non-traffic charges don't require waivers at all for someone enlisting normally, up until a certain number. Those wishing to become Army officers are expected to hold themselves to a higher standard from the start and their past is examined with more scrutiny as a result. Your circumstance is far more difficult, because you already had a chance to prove yourself in service and fell short. The CG of USAREC is unlikely to approve a waiver to even let you enlist again, let alone enlist for OCS.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 15 at 2021 3:49 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:49:05 -0400

Its not going to happen. They tell prior service applicants no every single board who have flawless records and have up to masters degrees. You wouldnt be able to compete.

Response by 1SG Ralph Hazlett made Jul 15 at 2021 4:01 PM

1SG Ralph Hazlett — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:01:04 -0400

Good Lord...I Hope Not.

Response by Cpl Vic Burk made Jul 15 at 2021 6:49 PM

Cpl Vic Burk — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 18:49:04 -0400

Can't speak for the Army but I am 99.999% sure that in the Marines that would not happen. Likewise, I seriously doubt the Army is going to let a prior enlisted back in with that separation code and then to become an officer on top of it all. That is a huge jump! My best advice would be to see if you can go back in enlisted, square yourself away and then apply to become an officer. Best of luck to you SPC Bob Stone

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 15 at 2021 9:24 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 21:24:30 -0400

Your odds are between zero and zilch.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 15 at 2021 9:50 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 21:50:55 -0400

I would say no chance. We hold officers to a high standard of moral and ethical behavior. Consider: simply looking up an answer on the internet can lead to dismissal from a university commissioning program (honor code violation), yet you think there is a chance to become an officer after serious misconduct?? I hate to be so blunt, but you need to look at this situation with some reality.

Moral waivers are much more likely for enlisted recruitments, but most often for behavior that happened prior to serving. You may have burned your bridges across both.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Jul 16 at 2021 11:17 AM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:17:57 -0400

SPC Bob Stone it appears you made a serious mistake when you were enlisted. If you have changed your behaviors since you were chaptered, you might be allowed to re-enter the military. Others in this string have pointed out the need for waivers.

Some things that might get you a more favorable consideration in my opinion:
-Completion of a college degree (required for commissioning)
-Absolutely clean record with law enforcement since leaving the Service
-No use of illicit drugs or abuse of legal substances (alcohol, prescription drugs, etc)
-History of "good works" since leaving the Service including active participation in organizations or projects serving the community
-Physical fitness

If you truly want to serve again, contact all of the Service's recruiters. If one of the recruiters will take on your case to help you get a slot in OCS, then go for it. The worst that can happen is you will get a "no." In which case, you'll still be a civilian and a veteran.

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jul 21 at 2023 2:04 AM

SSG Roger Ayscue — Fri, 21 Jul 2023 02:04:06 -0400

I would say, NO. If the Army did ot feel you could be rehabilitated, or your offense was so bad as to warrant a RE Code or 3 then the Army is likely not going to welcome you back with open arms and especially not pay you more and give you more responsibility.
That is why they teach that "Benifits of an Honorable Discharge" class in Basic Training.