How will the new APFT work with current profiles and the 6 events?

2019-01-15T11:43:00-05:00

With the new APFT in mind how will it manage or comply with profiles or allow alternate events for those that can't do the certain events. If not allowing for alternates then that would cut out alot of the Army

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jan 15 at 2019 12:08 PM

2019-01-15T12:08:54-05:00

Look, the service is not stupid, this idea has been reviewed several years. When it finally comes out completely, there will be the standard alternate events depending on the profile, like always.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2019 12:29 PM

2019-01-15T12:29:04-05:00

Currently, the upcoming Army Combat Fitness Test (not APFT) is not being geared for alternate events. There is a plan to see that if during this year of testing before it goes officially live in 2020 that alternate events should be incorporated. But, I wouldn't really hold any breaths on that aspect. Currently, I have a permanent profile for running so I do the alternate cardio. But, since I am not holding out on getting an alternate event for the new system, I am currently working on getting my run up to par (or better). Those that currently have alternate events or events that are eliminated due to physical injuries, but are still deployable based on current standards, had better start planning on getting able to do those events or get ready to exit the door. Yes it sucks. Yes, the Army will be losing people. But it's the nature of the beast and the business we're in. We don't have to like it, but we do have to cut the mustard or pack our bags.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2019 12:29 PM

2019-01-15T12:29:50-05:00

Pretty much every article about the Army Combat Fitness Test states that they are not considering alternate events due to profile. Currently, those on temporary profile will have 6 months to heal and return to duty including passing the ACFT. This fits under the "deploy (be deployable) or get out" directive that has been pushed the last few years. The figures that I've seen are estimating that this MAY reduce the force by 5-10% initially.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2019 12:34 PM

2019-01-15T12:34:38-05:00

Thank you for asking this question, because some people “dedicating a little bit of effort to researching this topic” can now refer to this post when doing so

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2019 2:08 PM

2019-02-12T14:08:34-05:00

I sat in on a local town hall with the INSCOM and FORCOM CSM's. The word from them, and ultimately SMA Daliy, is there is no current plan for alternate events. So, get healthy, stay healthy, start training.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made May 19 at 2019 8:58 AM

2019-05-19T08:58:11-04:00

I think the army has figured out that the old pt test was not a good test of fitness. It will be aged and mos based. Including profiles. 10 good pullups is better than 40 push ups. For females who want combat arms same standards as the men. Zero transgender fools. Gay is OK.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2019 10:38 AM

2019-11-17T10:38:44-05:00

All I can say is that if anyone thinks this is settled and an easy question to answer I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. A huge percentage of service members have profiles with only 3 events. Now you are going to have 6 events with no profiles? I see one of two things happening: half the people will be kicked out for not being able to pass the or PT test, some major changes will happen. I personally have been against people with profiles being treated the same as people that train, practice and pass the PT test but let’s be real something is going to have to change.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2019 10:52 AM

2019-11-17T10:52:00-05:00

Actually there was an article about this in yesterday’s Army times. It’s anything but settled!