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Maj John Bell
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Out of uniform and off-base, nothing identifying him or her as a service member; I'd let it pass.

In uniform or actively signaling that he/she is a service member, I'd identify myself and ask to see their ID. Then I would ask their unit, the unit's phone number, and the unit's senior SNCO. Finally I would tell them that I would be referring the matter to their senior SNCO, and advise them that they probably want to make sure that SNCO knows before 0800 on the next work day. Because I will by 0815. And God help them if they've lied about what unit they belong to because I will track them down.
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SSG Eric Heard
SSG Eric Heard
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Figures u wouldn't be andnits because someone else told u shouldn't care right
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SSG Eric Heard
SSG Eric Heard
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Maj John Bell I have no attitude just a different perspective and the color behind the reason the why it was done in the first place, so no attitude just a free opinion from military beliefs. By the way i am retired and have been harrased by the police for nothing, have u?
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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Maj John Bell - If you see this SSG Heard, what kind of move is that? Ask me a question then block me before I can answer? And, what does being stopped by the police have to do with this discussion on a service member kneeling during the National Anthem?
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SSG Paul Headlee
SSG Paul Headlee
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Yours is probably a way better answer than mine.
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Depends on the circumstances.

Off duty and out of uniform, we would have a quiet conversation.

On duty and/or in uniform, he would have a really bad day.
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SFC Leon Amer
SFC Leon Amer
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PO1 David Shepardson - "Point"? As in, the lead person of a patrol? I was a 13C/D, battalion and higher FDC for Field Artillery, so patrols weren't part of my skill set ... but thanks for the comment anyway.
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CMSgt Benjamin Hoover
CMSgt Benjamin Hoover
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Yeah I agree brother as long as it was an "Old Scholl" Chant that ended with him understanding everything that Rumpelstiltskin knew. Been there and done that.
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SP5 Howard Moore
SP5 Howard Moore
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SFC Leon Amer - he might feel the same way about you believe it or not there are a few religions that prohibit participation in the pledge or national anthem. I personally believe it is a shame we require enlisted men to surrender their rights awarded by the constitution while being sworn to uphold it
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SFC Leon Amer
SFC Leon Amer
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Constitutional rights vs good order and discipline required of the organization as a whole .... not to mention the UCMJ, which is mentioned in the oath of enlistment, which, prior to taking it, he could look it up and read it and if he finds anything he can't bring himself to do, for religious reasons, then void the contract and don't enlist, find another career .... but after repeating that oath and signing that contract, too late to quibble about the rights you miss and the irony of defending the document that guarantees the ones you VOLUNTARILY and WILLINGLY waived !
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COL William Oseles
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If a soldier kneels during the National Anthem he or she can be Courts Martialed.
Free Speech in the military is constrained by the UCMJ.

DOD Directive 1344.10 - POLITICAL ACTIVITIES BY MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES ON ACTIVE DUTY, extend these same requirements to all individuals on active duty.
Active duty enlisted members and warrant officers who violate these provisions can be charged under Article 92 of the UCMJ, Failure to Obey an Order or Regulation.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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SSG Robert Perrotto - I didn't say that BLM was a registered federal agency. I did not misunderstand. YOU MIS-READ. If BLM is a registered political entity, who are the registered with. If they haven't registered with some Federal Agency like The Federal Elections Commission (FEC) or the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) who would they register with.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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SFC Paul DeVol - DoD Instruction 1344.10 February 19, 2008
SUBJECT: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces

Has a list of does and don'ts. It isn't a long read. Hears a link:

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodd/134410p.pdf
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COL Jim Ainslie
COL Jim Ainslie
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha - Part of our oath is support and defend the constitution. If you examine the reason behind the protest, you will understand that the protesters are not disrespecting the flag or our service. They feel they have a legitimate issue that needs to be brought to the attention of the people of the United States. A protest done that does not attract any attention will never be successful. The issue of police violence against a segment of the American population needs to be addressed. This protest brings attention to the issue, if people would take the time to look at the base cause.
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
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... with all due respect... do not dictate that I must believe what you believe...
The UCMJ is quite clear... standing at attention, and saluting, TO SHOW RESPECT to the Flag of the U.S., and the National Anthem... IS COMMANDED... SIR >(
in my Patriotic opinion, you're opinion is a violation of UCMJ and incites MUTINY against the U.S. ... as you post that opinion as a Commanding Officer... it also commands U.S. to ignore and report all commands that are against the UCMJ and the Constitution, to superiors... you don't have one... EXCEPT you God... so I'll ask kindly...
PLEASE... do NOT... spread your hate of the U.S. ...
ON MY POSTS >(
i stand at attention, and render a military salute to this day whenever I am present when the Flag is Raised, Lowered, or the National Anthem plays....
--> AND I HOPE ALL YOU TRAITORS TO WE THE PEOPLE... SERVING AS AN ENEMY OF U.S. ... IN OUR MILITARY...
DON'T LIKE THAT >(
You are more than Free to Justify your Treason to yourself... DON'T INFLICT IT ON ME >(
DUTY - HONOR - COUNTRY...
I LIVE BY THOSE WORDS
--> AND YOU WILL HAVE TO KILL ME TO MAKE ME BOW TO YOUR COMMUNIST DICTATOR RULES >(
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...
GO LIVE IN A COUNTRY YOU CAN PREFER OVER U.S.
WE DON'T WANT YOUR KIND IN OUR COUNTRY, DESTROYING OUR WAY OF LIFE...
FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY IS COMMANDED BY WE THE PEOPLE...
NOT DICTATORIAL OPPRESSION ... AND POLITICALLY CORRECTED... NAZI SPEECH >(
(yeah... Adolf Hitler started that $#@%)
If you like the sight, taste, and smell, of your own #@$%... go ahead... KEEP YOUR HEADS UP YOUR #$$#$
DISRESPECTING THE ANTHEM AND FLAG ... RIOTING AND DESTROYING THAT WHICH IS U.S. ...
--> IS NOT PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLING TO PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES >(
WE HAVE LEGAL MEANS OF RESOLVING PROBLEMS... AND INSURRECTION, RIOTING, AND DESTROYING IS NOT A PART OF THAT PROCESS... NEVER HAS BEEN.
DISRESPECTING THIS NATION, AND OUR LAWS...
IS THE PROBLEM >(
THEY, OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS, SWEAR TO PROTECT AND DEFEND U.S. FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, INSURRECTION, AND INVASION... WHILE THEY LEAD OUR ENEMIES... IN WAR... AND THE BULLETS... ARE STROKES OF THE PENS THAT TAKE OUR PROSPEROUS, FREE, DEMOCRATIC LIVES AWAY FROM U.S. ...
--> AS THEY GIFT U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES... BY LAW >(
DACA... LEGALIZED HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN CHILDREN, WOMEN, AND SLAVES!
TRADE DEALS... LEVY WAR AGAINST U.S., AS THEY TRADE OUR NATION TO CHINA... THE ENEMY... WHOM THEY GIVE AID AND COMFORT TO...
--> AND YOU THE PEOPLE... DENIED THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST A LAW THAT GIVES AID TO OUR ENEMIES >(
--> 170 MILLION U.S. CITIZEN HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS ARE NOW ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES... BEFORE COVID!
--> 50 MILLION MORE ON UNEMPLOYMENT... WHILE INVADER SLAVES COME TO SLAVE FOR OUR FARMERS... LEGALLY >(
--> THE MADE BY LAW HOMELESS, THEIR JOBS AND HOMES NOW BELONGING TO AN ENEMY NATION, ARE BEING TREATED LIKE CRIMINALS, AS THEY ARE KICKED AROUND BY THE GESTAPO POLICE, WHO ARE COMMANDED BY IMMIGRANTS, WHO LEAD CRIMINALS AND INVADERS IN INSURRECTION AGAINST U.S. >(
--> AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO KNEEL DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, OR TO THE FLAG???
MORONS >(
READ ... THE ... CONSTITUTION THAT YOU SWORE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES... FOREIGN.... AND DOMESTIC >(
--> SEE THE TREASON >(
OR KNEEL TO OUR ENEMIES... AS YOU KNEEL TO THAT FLAG, AND ANTHEM, THAT STAND FOR THIS NATION'S FREEDOM, AND DEMOCRACY >(
YOU WANT CRIMINAL DICTATORS IN CHARGE OF YOU AND YOUR POSTERITY?
GO AHEAD... KEEP LOVING THE TRAITORS >(
YOU ASK FOR IT, YOU ALLOW IT, YOU GOT IT >(
CORRUPTION AND TREASON... AND OPPRESSION ALONG WITH IT.
--> AND RIGHT NOW... THE CITIZENS THAT WERE KILLED, RAPED, ROBBED, AND HAD THEIR PROPERTY DESTROYED... BY NATURALIZED IMMIGRANT WHO IMMEDIATELY OBTAINED OFFICE, AND USED THAT OFFICE TO INFLICT TERRORISM ON HER ... SUBJECTS... ARE VOTING TO RE-ELECT HER!!!
--> AND SHE CLAIMS SHE BRINGS A NEW FORM OF SOCIETY TO WE THE PEOPLE OF THE U.S.!!!
SHARIA LAW, AND... ISLAMIC STATE IN THE UNITED STATES!!!! (ISUS)
OFF WITH YOUR HEADS INFIDELS!!!!
MUSLIMS OF THE UNITED STATES... YOU ARE NO LONGER PROTECTED FROM SHARIA LAW!!! ... SAWANT IS COMING FOR YOU... WITH HER ASSASSINS!!!
RUN!
MORONS!!!
YOU WANT HATE AND CRIME TO BE THE LAW OF THIS LAND?
KEEP HATING THE ONE PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO STOP THAT, WHILE YOU LOVE THE INCUMBENT TRAITORS >(
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