Posted on Oct 13, 2017
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It's 1800 and you just get off work. You let your subordinates go at 1600. You text them reminding them of a personnel inspection tomorrow morning. Your E4 tells you that they "don't need to deal with you outside of working hours" and not to "contact them outside of 0600-1600".

How do you handle this?
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
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This seems like a perfect opportunity for 8 hours of EMI (Extra Military Instruction). I do believe that mustering with the OOD at 1700, 1800, 1900, 2000, 2100, and 2145 (right before taps), in a different uniform, for 4 days straight, might teach the individual what defines working hours, and proper interaction with seniors.
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
SCPO Jason McLaughlin
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CW4 John Wheatley - My young know-it-all, rules don't apply to me days cost me around $1500 and 60 days of restriction (two 30 day awards, because I was exceptionally hard-headed). Thankfully, I didn't come up in a zero defect Navy. There is no way that I would have been allowed to reenlist after my first term in today's Navy.
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CDR Ron Miller
CDR Ron Miller
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In the days before cell phones, wives often answered when the Duty Office initiated a recall to individuals not on standby . . . . 'He's not at home' was common, as was 'he's drunk' - if he was not on standby status. But discussions with the individual sailor, as commented on above, usually was all that was necessary to convince the individual that they needed to have a serious talk with their spouse. Virtually all of the time the individual was 'able and available' were it not for the wife answering the phone - and of course sometimes they really were 'out & about' or drunk! Naturally, those on standby always responded ASAP without question.
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SFC Jack Champion
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William Barry
William Barry
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LCDR (Join to see) - not all civilian jobs are far from yours. I work in a state psychiatric hospital. We are always able to do forced overtime as long as we are there. If you walk off or can't do Mandates then you can go for a "just cause hearing" and explain to the administration why you should continue to have a job. I have over 14 years and I am not exempt from forcing. There are some rules, but if you don't stay it is an automatic one=day suspension. You then follow the chain of progressive discipline.
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SFC First Sergeant
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I'd respond to this, but then words like "premeditated" would start getting thrown around in court.
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LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
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LCpl Steve Smith they’ve obviously never been on a Marine Base!!!
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LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
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MSG GregoryT Majewski in my day we would have been given membership to the 6-9 Club, scrubbing the Ladder Wells and the Head with a toothbrush!
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SGT Lee McLean
SGT Lee McLean
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You’re my kinda NCO
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LCpl Freedom Ali
LCpl Freedom Ali
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YES PREMEDITATED MURDER, OR YOU CAN DO HIM LIKE JACK NICHOLSON GIVE HIM A "CODE RED", OR SINCE WHITE NATIONALISTS GROUPS OR PART OF MY OUTSTANDING MILITARY MORE SPECIFICALLY MY COURAGEOUS MARINE CORPS, THEY CAN BE FOUND HANGING SUPICIOUSLY FROM STARBOARD!!!! tHAT WILL TEACH THEM TO RESPOND TO A TEXT MESSAGE WITH SO LITTLE DISREGARD TO YOUR ELITE OFFICIAL STATUS.
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SFC Career Counselor
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I would put them on duty from 0400-0000 to see how they like those working hours.
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SFC Charlie Jones
SFC Charlie Jones
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With CQ or guard duty in the middle of the night.
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PO2 Bill Reardon
PO2 Bill Reardon
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So did you stay in the Teamsters with UPS PO3 Bob McCord
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PO3 Bob McCord
PO3 Bob McCord
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PO2 Bill Reardon - I did for 12 years until we moved out of California.
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SPC Timothy Coleman
SPC Timothy Coleman
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Do people of Greater Rank and Authority, delights in using that Authority to harass and subjugate their Subordinates? Many of the comments on this thread, appear to administrate this premise. Should you be a person of Greater Rank and Authority, how does it make you feel when you when you leverage that weight, to bear down on one of your subordinates? Do you delight in the subordinate's misery? Does this reinforce you feeling of well being and identity? Do you enjoy the power of your rank more than the humility of your responsibility for others? If you are having a difficulty with one of your subordinates, has the thought of discussing an issue with them, have a calm conversation between adults, using thoughtfulness and logic, to come to a consensus, ever come to you? Or, Does your Academies and Leadership schools, just train you to talk at people, issuing ultimatums and commands and orders...instead of discussing issues with people, who may be of any rank? Should you be a person of Greater Rank and Authority, do you feel free of any of the consequences and repercussion, for how you treat your subordinates? If so, what happens next...?
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