How would you process an NCOER for an NCO who failed a UA?

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 21:43:26 -0400

Yes, my first ever NCOER for a Soldier who was reduced to SPC after failing a Probable Cause UA. I need some assistance on this matter.

Is this a Change of Rater or a Relief for Cause NCOER?

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Besides the Character comments, where else can I speak of his lack of discipline and not meeting standards in this NCOER?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 26 at 2021 10:21 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 22:21:52 -0400

A Change of Rater is needed due to the reduction to SPC. The DOR for the NCOER will be the effective date for SPC. You could make a comment in pretty much every block if you wanted to.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Jul 26 at 2021 10:42 PM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 22:42:41 -0400

Thanks for posting the question here as the answer will provide a learning opportunity for many of us.

Response by SSG Dale London made Jul 27 at 2021 6:17 AM

SSG Dale London — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 06:17:18 -0400

This is definitely a Change of Rater instance. As for what you put in each block, just make sure you can back up each comment with counselling statements, memoranda for record and the like in case the soldier in question challenges the NCOER or takes it to the IG. If you are particularly scathing the soldier's reviewer will probably want to talk to you about it. They cannot force you to change a poor rating but they can undermine it in their reviewer comments. If you can quote chapter and verse on the reasons for giving a poor rating, the reviewer may back you up with similar ratings which will make defending it easier if a complaint goes up the chain.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2021 10:53 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 10:53:19 -0400

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member, I had to pull up the regs for specific wording. Here it is:

From AR 623-3, dated 14 June 2019

3–41. “Change of Rater” report
a. A code 03, “Change of Rater” OER, is mandatory when the rated officer ceases to serve under the immediate supervision of the rater and minimum rating qualifications have been met.
b. A code 03, “Change of Rater” NCOER, is mandatory when—
(1) The rated NCO ceases to serve under the immediate supervision of the rater and minimum rating qualifications have been met.
(2) A rated NCO is reduced to the rank of specialist or below, if minimum rating qualifications have been met. Part I, block c, will contain the reduced rank and part I, block d, will reflect the effective date of the reduction. Reduction to another NCO grade does not require an NCOER (see DA Pam 623–3).