Human cloning

2014-04-23T08:45:49-04:00

I know this is going to be a very controversial topic in society once this progresses, but I am looking at it military stand point.

If this became legal and common, what do you think would happen to the military? ie if we could clone humans, why not just clone the "perfect" service member that can do it all and create a force of that person to do the conflicts? It would basically be a robot military but with humans.

Thoughts?

http://news.discovery.com/tech/biotechnology/adult-human-cells-cloned-for-first-time-140418.htm#mkcpgn=fbdsc17

Adult Human Cells Cloned for First Time : DNews

In a cloning first, researchers generate embryonic stem cells from a man's skin.

Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made Apr 23 at 2014 9:11 AM

2014-04-23T09:11:00-04:00

I've constantly been curious about using clone slugs or possibly robotic drone bodies to function as a military. I think that it would just drag out wars and make them more economic instead of about lives and political ramification. Essentially making war more trivial.

Besides that, why would I want another one of me? I'm already too awesome for words.

Response by SSG Laureano Pabon made Apr 23 at 2014 9:56 AM

2014-04-23T09:56:05-04:00

I personally cloned my son in my image and he is ok. Many parents who have children and give them away for adoption for reasons which they may face forget that the ones they are giving always for a better life soon will be adults with feelings and will attempt to fine closure. questions like where did I came from, why was I given away for adoption, whom am I what's my real race, Well that sort of thing.

To clone a human for combat purposes is like to make babies whose purpose if to fight. When talking about stem cell, remember they are humans and may find some sort of resentment. One thing is they will have eyes, ears, they will breath the same air, eat the same food and learn the same way. So with this how would they feel to see us (the not clone), having children with a father, mother brothers and sisters celebrating all these holidays as a family while they remain isolated reserved for the purpose of combat only?

Even if these clones were giving to real parents to raise for the Feds, it would be really hard to accept that idea by those parents, that someday they have to give back what is not there's to the Feds so they fight and get killed like as if nothing really mattered.

On the other hand, if the USA can do it so can any other country, and if they clone as well, then we as humans had better get our ethics together because we will be way off track. Now if I ever find out that such a clone was made I'm going to steal it and raise it myself the normal way. To allow a human clone to fight for my freedom is not required, I can do that myself. But to make a clone for that purpose would be a criminal act in life. Thanks for making this thread 1st LT (P) Christensen it is very interesting :)

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2014 11:05 AM

2014-04-23T11:05:57-04:00

Clone an Army of Chuck Norris. PROBLEM SOLVED!!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2014 11:19 AM

2014-04-23T11:19:01-04:00

Bad idea...I find myself thinking of storm troopers now. Expendable not free thinking...nope I don't like it

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2014 12:21 PM

2014-04-23T12:21:23-04:00

Blade Runner comes to mind.

A force of "perfect" service members (with free will and guns, no less), bred for conflict by a civilization that can create clone after clone of the same person, would soon realize they are death-dealing slaves, and rebel.

We would repress the human desire for freedom to keep from fighting our own wars. And that’s another thing. We would sanitize the war experience by sending in clones to do the work, and lose the horrific perception of armed conflict. War would never end, because it would never have to.

And how would we treat these clones if they integrated into our society of “natural born” humans? Veterans have a hard enough time, now we have vets from a test tube that no nothing but conflict. Nevermind their vet status, would we even treat them as equal humans?

Response by SFC Stephen P. made Apr 23 at 2014 12:29 PM

2014-04-23T12:29:03-04:00

1. Genetic diversity is an important element for the prolonged survival of any species.

2. The U.S. frowns upon slavery.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2014 2:50 PM

2014-08-29T14:50:03-04:00

The "perfect soldier" is created from a large number of factors. Genetic traits are probably the least of those. Strength, agility, etc, definitely help a soldier, but integrity, the drive to succeed, adaptability, and other factors weigh more heavily, and are the largely product of environment and training. While it's true that the army could raise the clones from childhood in an attempt to control those factors, they could just as easily control those factors by conscripting children and raising them to be soldiers. So I would say cloning, in and of itself, is sort of a non-issue because it won't create a perfect soldier by itself. As for whether the army should start conscripting children to train them up "right"...well, I'd say no, but that's an entirely different controversial topic.