I am 35 and just enlisted. What can I expect?

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Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Jan 23 at 2020 11:37 AM

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The DI's will take care of you in their own way.

Response by 1SG Frank Boynton made Jan 23 at 2020 11:44 AM

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Damn. You’re going to hate it. Physically you’re going to be sore the entire time. You’re going to be older than most the drill sergeants and other enlisted and officers in your company. Drills are not going to give you a break. You have 2 months before you leave for basic. Start your physical routine like you are Sylvester Stallone in Rocky. Good luck but it’s going to be a hard row to go for you. Be mentally prepared for the challenge and prepares to face it every day.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jan 23 at 2020 11:56 AM

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Start running, now! Don't stop! Should you get tired of running, do chin ups and push ups. When you get tired of that, go back to running. Forget sleep. You don't have time. I was 23 when I enlisted. I had finished college and law school while working full time. Didn't have time for playing games. I spent a whole year at Infantry School, BCT, AIT, and Infantry OCS. I never really caught up with the young'uns and, as 1SG Frank Boynton mentioned, no one gave me a break. If anything, they pushed me harder. Sure, I had an advantage in emotional maturity and academics, but the physical part was brutal. Now, stop reading and start running!

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 12:08 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member As others have mentioned, you have two months to work on getting in shape and working on your endurance. Do what you are told and do not quit. Be prepared mentally for new challenges and adventures. Good luck.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 12:13 PM

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I was 28 when I went through OSUT, more power to you for doing it at 35. I found that psychologically it was much less burdensome than most of the guys who were 18-19, I had a solid ten years of experience being away from home and it really took significantly less toll on me, I also grew up without a cell phone, being separated from that wasn't an issue for me, it was for the young guys. Physically, I found that losing control of my diet caused significant weight (not the good kind), my theory is that the DFAC is geared towards the metabolism of an 18 year old that needs to put on weight. While you're there just try to maintain some perspective, BCT is the easiest school you will ever do in the Army, even the worst Soldier in the Army has passed one way or another.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Jan 23 at 2020 12:30 PM

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35 and hitting basic? Learn and accept that pain, soreness and discomfort are you new best friends. You are going to be older than most of the people in your training company, including the Drills. Forget about sleeping in late or taking breaks. Forget the snacks and little extras you snuck in.

Start with running and I mean running in all kinds of weather. Get up at 5:30 and just accept it and set yourself a course of 2 miles and then 2 back. Try to work at close to an 8 minute mile as you can, this will help a lot.

Start doing pushups and situps, incorporate this into your daily workout as well as doing pull ups.

It's going to be hell on you but if you want this bad enough, you can do it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 12:52 PM

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I actually have a career plan in place to become an officer in the guard and fly Blackhawks not just fix them. I really really want to do this.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 1:32 PM

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Depends first on were are you going for BCT, second don't expect any breaks just because you are older, also expect some of your squad, platoon, company mates to be total idiots and get the the whole company, platoon or squad dropped all thru the opening phase or beyond.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 3:10 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member I am one those poor SOBs that has done BCT twice. First at 18 years old and then 31 years old. It will be tough for you but not impossible. Your first diagnostic APFT will be an eye opener for you. I bet you aren't as out of shape as you think. At 35 years old with a 50/50/50 standard you are looking at 26 P/U, 34 S/U, and a 18:48 2 mile. If you cannot get that done by the 2nd week of BCT I would be shocked. (or if I were you ashamed.) Everyone here has given you great advice. Start exercising now so its one less thing to worry about.

Good Luck and Enjoy the experience.

Response by SGT Brandon Culpepper made Jan 23 at 2020 3:23 PM

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“Just keep breathing” is your new mantra.
Doing PT…”breathe”.
Dealing with shithead, spoiled, untested teenagers…”breathe”.
Mass punishment…”breathe”.

Response by SPC Robert Bobo made Jan 23 at 2020 4:34 PM

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35 going through Basic and AIT , hope you've been working out , hang tough and share some wisdom with those young people , all the best!

Response by SFC Rich Goldstein made Jan 23 at 2020 4:53 PM

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The advice you’ve been getting is good, do what you can to prepare physically. It’s a good idea to get a jump on being prepared in that area. One thing I haven’t seen much of are comments about the atmosphere. You’re not just there for physical training. The aspect of becoming a soldier is huge. D&C, weapons training, and the entire host of soldier skills matter. Listen to the drills. (When they say left face, make a left face, not right.) Don’t be frustrated at hurry up and wait. It’s part of the program. There’s a lot of training, and you’ll likely be glad you did it. I decided to give Basic a try when I was 31, just for the experience of it. Each time I looked left and right I saw recruits that were just as tired as I was. I wouldn’t trade my experience for anything. Wound up doing 22 years and (mostly) enjoyed it. Best of luck to you. Make your dreams come true.

Response by SGT Marcus Milner made Jan 23 at 2020 5:33 PM

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Left foot, right foot...stay motivated.

Response by 1SG Mitchell Smith made Jan 23 at 2020 6:02 PM

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Who are we kidding, simply put, you can do it for sure - we did it but keeping up with those damn youngsters damn near killed us. 10 years from now you'll be 45.. Hell I retired at 45 with 26 years in AND it damn near kill me keeping up with those youngsters. AGAIN you can do it!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 6:14 PM

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The new ACFT isn’t bad...... until you get to the sprint, drag, carry. That will smoke the crap out of you. Then you still have to do Ke tucks and a 2 mile run.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 8:36 PM

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Don’t be the entitled old dude who gripes about how entitled the young trainees are.

Start running, get that core tight, and prepare to be in a way different tier of resilience compared to your peers.

As in, your life problems are likely vastly more complex than their life problems. So, put on that big brother hat, get your body right, and show them that “old man” strength.

Good luck!!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 9:38 PM

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I went through OSUT twice in my life once at 18 for 19D and again at 34 for my current MOS 12B. There has been a lot of good advice given within this thread so some recaps that will be beneficial to you

1. Check your ego at the door. You will be older than almost every person there, including the NCO's and CoC. They do not care about who you were before you got there, they are only interested in making you a soldier. Pay close attention and learn as much as you can, these are some of the most professional NCO's you will ever work with.
2. All the young ones will be looking at your for leadership, be the leader you would want leading you. be humble and be honest.
3. Your body can and will do more than your mind will allow it to, shut that shit down and push through
4. You need to be able to meet the PT standards for the 18-21 years old range. You will be training with this age group and they will expect you to keep up. No on likes a shit bag that says "I can meet the standard for my age"
5. If you are working out now, double and triple your effort. I made it a point to be able to hit 75 pts. per event before I even left the second time. Run, run and run some more. at our age the biggest factor when it comes to falling behind is endurance. I would start incorporating HIIT training into your routine twice a week. The new ACFT is no joke and there is no age groups.
6. Most of all, and this is probably the most important, remember it is only temporary and that it is 90% mental 8% physical and 2% luck!

When I went through a second time they knew I was prior service. There was a little more expected of me and I was humbled that they trusted me to be the soldier I got to be. However I served with a few other older guys (mid 30's) that were absolute bags of shit because they thought somehow there age should have gotten them special treatment... trust me you do not want special treatment while at BCT.

With that said, I had the time of my life... both times and would go through it all again if need be.

Best of luck to you!!

Response by SGM Riki Hawk made Jan 23 at 2020 9:50 PM

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harassment! When I was a drill sergeant, we valued the more "mature" privates, but the first two weeks we were pretty tough on them. I recall calling one dude a failure in life so he started his fallback plan. I say this because this is what I experienced as a Drill Sergeant. Again we did take care of these dudes. Also, the younger kids are gonna drive you crazy because you are much older and you aren't in the mood to play those reindeer games. So you'll be the "old man" of the platoon. Also, don't be surprised to have some young bucks who will challenge you, especially if you correct them.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 9:52 PM

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Run, the gym and the track should be your life until you ship. The better shape you're in the better off you'll be.

Understand you'll likely be the oldest one there, get used to the old man jokes, don't let them bug you.

At your age you may not get another chance so if you even think about quitting, don't. Push through, it's only temporary, you can make it.

Two rules:
1. Don't sweat the small stuff
2. It's all small stuff

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 9:59 PM

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I went in at 26. While that isn't exactly in the same boat as you, I was older than all but about five other people in my BCT company so I feel your pain.

Run your ass off. When your shins start hurting because of all the cardio you are going to have to do to try and prepare yourself for basic, then bike, or go to a gym and do cardio on a treadmill or cycle there. I feel like most guys can develop muscular endurance more quickly than they can cardio endurance, so do pushups and situps before you get there, but if you have never run that should be a priority. I could max the pushups and situps very early on, but I struggled with the run all the way through AIT.

I maybe ran about ten miles total in the couple of months before I went. Needless to say, basic sucked bad, and AIT was worse.

As an older soldier they will give you leadership positions at basic. You will mess it up but will probably bounce from being like a PG to a squad leader etc because hopefully life has prepared you more than it has prepared other 18 year old privates and you should suck less than those guys and gals. And everybody sucks in basic. Its just the way it is. It is impossible not to mess up.

To be more highspeed learn the soldiers creed before you go, as well as the three general orders.
Know rank structure and always throw Drill Sergeant after every statement or question. Learning squad/platoon movements before you go will also help. I actually think RSP is a good program for this sort of thing, but just like me you are not going to be able to fully utilize it because of your quick ship date.

The most important thing is to keep a positive mindset. It's only ten weeks. Anybody can play the game for ten weeks.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2020 10:09 PM

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Alot of immature young people who will be the cause of your frustration, pain, and possibly suffering. You will get better at PT by eating and resting properly. You body is a machine that needs to be cared for. The one trait that will help make your life easier is learning some type of tact to lead the young people. Whether they like it or not, an older person has naturally gained experience that has not dawned on the late-borns. Do as much as you can to appeal and influence them. You might get appointed platoon leader, or a bay boss, etc which will make your life alot easier. The overall process was designed to be challenging, and weed out those who refuse to conform to military standards. Individualism gets you killed downrange, and your drill sergeant will say it over, and over. Buy a durable wrist watch. Nothing flashy, and mute it, only allowing for wake up alarms. Set it 2-4 mins fast. We call it "army time" and it will repay you your entire career, maybe even your daily life.

AIT is literally military college for less fortunate inner city kids. I'm not joking. You will be challenged academically against the army standards for your job, on top of your basic standards of "soldiering." But this will be many of your peer's first taste of freedom, and while it's old to you, they will get kicked out, arrested, or blue falcon your platoon the whole time. You will likely fly under the radar, as you are already a independent, functioning adult. We're concerned with the young folks that still depend on adult judgement. Sorry, but society don't make 'em like they used to. If all this sounds terrible, and negative, good. Reverse engineer your strategy to overcome it all. If it sounds great, and you see it as a challenge, then you've had the resilience required to achieve this the whole time. We prepare for everything early. Hope is not a good plan. As a Tango, you will most likely be at Ft. Eustis, and I'm sure others have stated that already.

Above the Best!

Response by SGT Juan Robledo made Jan 23 at 2020 10:39 PM

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Good luck, don't forget your oxygen tank

Response by SPC Stewart Smith made Jan 24 at 2020 1:08 AM

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#1 advice: Keep a positive attitude. You'll hate it if you have a negative attitude, you'll enjoy it if you have a positive attitude.
Basically exercise. A Lot. Start running now and don't stop. Run 5 miles and you'll get used to running 5 miles.
You're going to get screamed at all day every day for no reason at all in basic. This is part of the process to break you down mentally. It's ok. It ends. Keep a positive outlook. Understand you're going to be better for it. Look forward to the day that nothing hurts your feelings anymore.
Again, remain positive. Everything is for the better. No one is out to get you. The only person that may be out to get you is yourself. Stay positive. Be happy. Work out a lot.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2020 1:20 PM

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Start running now. Getting your PT and stamina up. Be prepared to be called "Old Man". Try not to treat your fellow trainees as your kids, but still be mature, because besides the drill SGTs, you will probably serve as the older soldier.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2020 1:55 PM

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I am heading to BCT at 33 ( almost 34). We are in the same boat. Start doing ACFT prep. and running. Like right now.

Response by CPL Gary Pifer made Jan 25 at 2020 2:58 PM

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Your new name POPS... but once you've in your Guard unit.. no one cares.. as it's filled with old guys up to 60.. I rejoined at 46... Pratice the ACPT... plan on staying until age 55 for 20 years... keep all paperwork and records.. Forget unit drama and try to deploy to get Veteran status... Never quit or lose time... get your 20.

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2020 1:36 AM

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Practice rucking (35 lbs) or you’ll get stress fractures :)

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Jan 28 at 2020 7:53 PM

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I went through Basic in 1988 and had two thirty-year old guys do it with us. One, the guy who came to us from the Navy was the platoon guide as an E-5, and the other was a former Marine who separated, went to college, and then joined the Army as a PFC and was our Assistant Platoon Guide. So, the Army may look to you for leadership. If that is the case, you really need to be in shape because although you are not going to pull extra duty, you are responsible every night for every gig the Drill Sergeants find and you will answer by pushing the ground to Mexico, if you know what I mean. Physical fitness will be key, but you also need to listen, evaluate, learn fast, and motivate/lead on both a team and an individual level. You will do pushups every time someone misses the mark or screws up whether or not it is you. And this is important because it makes you and everybody else accountable to each other. This repeats into permanent party where if someone messes up during an inspection then your platoon may not qualify to pass inspection. So, learn to take responsibility for yourself and for your team and to pay for everybody else's mistakes.

Response by SSG James Wilcox made Feb 5 at 2020 11:00 PM

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Body aches in places you never had them before.

Response by SP5 Charles Willoughby made Feb 6 at 2020 10:39 PM

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I enlisted at 23. SF and SOG. Had been running for years. Not prepared for 100+ lbs on my back climbing up hill in Laos. At 35 you are going to hurt. Suck it up.

Response by Col Casey "Radio" G. made Feb 12 at 2020 6:20 PM

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Just want to say thank you for raising your hand. You've just joined the most impressive demographic on the planet, and committed to the most honorable calling, IMHO. What will get you through training is that you hold to that belief, that you belong. No one can tell you otherwise. If you're selfless and willing to listen, none of the physical stuff will even matter. In 20-30 years, the moral lessons are what you'll remember from BCT and AIT.

Response by SGT David John made Feb 12 at 2020 7:57 PM

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Run Forest Run. Then run a little, run a little run a little more.... up the hill, down the hill, through the hill. Honestly its a short time, hang in, find a ranger buddy, and hey, the new army does it all in shorts and sneakers now anyway. Oh, pull ups friend the hardest things for us 'dads'.

Response by SFC John Trujillo made Feb 13 at 2020 7:50 PM

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If you have no injuries then you’ll be fine. Start swimming and running on opposite days. Basic training is basic but who wants to just meet the standards. If you have any pride start letting it push you.

Response by MAJ Stephen Zglinicki made Feb 16 at 2020 5:23 AM

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Grab your family jewels, shut the FKUP and drive on!

Response by MAJ Terry LaFrance made Feb 17 at 2020 12:40 AM

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Sore knees, sore back, seriously sore posterior.

Response by SPC Daniel Rankin made Feb 22 at 2020 6:25 PM

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I was 33 when I enlisted for the first time and I will let you know that the instructors showed me more respect then they did the younger ones. Why, because I was older then most of my instructors and they knew I had more life experience under my belt they would ever had seen. When I made a mistake I would admit it and take my punishment. I would not whine and cry about it and for that reason I was treated with that respect. My punishment was no less severe but less harsh. I was in good shape because I was used to running and doing pushups and situps. Something I enjoyed doing while a civilian. Show respect to them they know what they are doing.

Response by SGT Steven Pryor made Feb 22 at 2020 8:26 PM

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Have fun being called "grandpa" by everyone.

Response by Sgt James Gross made Feb 23 at 2020 5:33 AM

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You can expect a lot of PT, and if you aren’t in excellent physical condition you won’t be able to keep up. The DI’s will have you for dinner.

Response by MSgt Eric Roseberry made Feb 23 at 2020 1:24 PM

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Well, get in shape. Basic is no joke for a typical 35 yr old. Physical conditioning will continue to challenge in school. Once you make it to your 1st post the real challenge begins.

Expect to be supervised by a 20 year old that isn't interested in your opinion, his boss will be 24 and less interested. Some will resent your relative experience. Your senior leadership will doubt your mental fitness for service.

Listen, do what your told, and learn fast. Seek and be open to feedback. Think before you speak, always consider the Army didn't issue an opinion. Oh, its hard but yes sir, no sir, thank you sir are near always the correct response.

Response by 1SG Ernest Stull made Feb 23 at 2020 6:29 PM

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I pray that you are in good shape overall. Joining the army at 35 is very admirable and I wish you well. The army is ramping up its apft program. You should go on YouTube and watch the new physical test standards. Other then that go and get into crossfit.

Response by 1SG Timothy Trewin made Feb 24 at 2020 6:43 AM

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Honestly as long as you are in decent shape you will be fine. They will get you to where you need to be. Basic Training isn’t that bad all things considered. The hardest part for you will be the mental aspect of the Army, especially once you get to your first unit. To be successful you will have to be humble. There is a good chance that your team leader, squad leader, platoon leader, platoon sergeant, company commander, and possibly even your 1SG will all be younger than you. That’s a hard pill to swallow for people who join when they get older. Age is irrelevant, although they might lean on your additional years of life experience. The first time you get a developmental counseling from a 21 year old team leader will be an eye opener for you. Just remember that while you can leverage your life experience, there is a difference between it and Army experience.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cichelli made Feb 24 at 2020 8:10 AM

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A little advice, do what you're told, when you're told to do it. That will save you a LOT of grief and push-ups.

Response by Sgt Brian Mummau made Feb 24 at 2020 11:25 AM

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I joined the Marine Corps at 27. I was told I would be given more responsibility, looked up to etc... That basically was a load of crap. I was treated the same as everyone else in my platoon. You are pond scum at that point. Marine Corps may be a little different. I was used to running my own business. I went from that to asking if this recruit could make a head call. In the Marine Corps the physical part is tough but physically anyone can do it. Most who fail out do so mentally. They are mentally not strong enough to keep going. Others have given good advice on the physical aspect. On the mental just be ready mentally to keep going even when you don't want to. Put the mission first and in boot that is to graduate. You can do it. Your age will help you in that your not as naïve as you were when you were younger. Some of my instructors didn't like that I was older. Others didn't care and because of my rank assumed I was younger. My guys at my unit called me the old man.

Response by SFC Avon Banks made Feb 24 at 2020 2:00 PM

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I agree with Jack D., run, run, and keep on running. Invest in a good pair of running shoes, do alot of push ups. Do 25, which doesn't sound like a lot, but for each set do one less, 25, then do 24, etc. Do a lot of sit ups and body twist. You're core is what's going to help also. I retired in 2004 after 21 years, so you can do it too! Just go in focused and trust God along the way. God bless.

Response by SPC Nils Hammer made Feb 24 at 2020 5:18 PM

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I was told to prep with horizontal ladder to toughen up my skin on hands, and I was inadequate, missing some PT due to hand injuries. Your age may be a big psych bonus for the ability to put up with crap which is a major component of service.

Response by Cpl Gabriel F. made Feb 24 at 2020 7:53 PM

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Expect anything a 35 year old thrown in the mix of 17, 18, 19 year old can dish out. Instructors with the power 10 years younger. Start run and PT now required in basic. Dig deep. Grunt through. Make your mark. One way or another they will remember the old guy. Been there. Good luck.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2020 2:50 PM

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Yes all of that

Response by CPO David R. D. made Feb 25 at 2020 4:05 PM

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I was 26 when I enlisted and retired at the age of 50 from the Navy. You will be considered the "old man" for your entire career. Follow the counsel of CPT Jack Durish for the physical aspect, master your skill set early, set the example for the young ones already in, and those coming in behind you.

Response by SGT Mary G. made Feb 25 at 2020 5:43 PM

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I went to Basic at 35, a few weeks before the deadline which at that time was 36. I would say learn the rules, do what you are told and excel by working at outdoing your best effort at every opportunity, don't complain unless there is a real reason (then if you don't, you're wrong). Enjoy the experience and have fun with it. Get to know and appreciate your colleagues. Everyone has an interesting life and story. By the time you are finished you will be in great shape. My weakness was pushups, even so I was up to standard by the end of training. My buddy's weakness was sit-ups. She too was up to standard by the end of training.

Response by SGT Brian Messenheimer made Feb 26 at 2020 8:34 AM

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Skip the usual exercise routines. Your body will rebel against it. Start doing CrossFit as soon as possible, preferably with a seasoned trainer who's worked with older people, and yes, at 35 going into a young man's game, you are considered old. Get into a routine, then expand into two, then eventually three routines a day. Include actual 'strength' exercises into it. Push up, pull ups. Stay away from sit ups and allow the cross fit to strengthen your core. Youre going to ache, but unlike boot camp, you can allow your body to recover. Cool, not cold showers, never hot. Allows the oxygen an blood to move within the tissue and will keep the buildup of lactic acid at a minimum. Good luck and thank you for choosing to serve your Country!

Response by SSgt Jerrol Olson made Feb 26 at 2020 8:35 AM

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Congrats. If you e been going to the gym on habit it will be an advantage, but you’re OLD!!! I think it’s excellent. After you except the pain of having your body snapped in and don’t walk around reminding people how old you are, they don’t care, your age and experience will be an asset to any shop. Your worst enemy is going to be your arrogance. Remember that. You joined knowing you would be equals with 19 y.o.s.

I got out after 10 years and renlisted in 05 after being out for 6. I was a 37 yr old Sgt. They took 4 years time in grade. I loved it. I just wanted to be a good Marine and take care of business, butttt. Unfortunately they liked me and I ended up being team chief, plt. Sgt. Etc.....

It happens.

Enjoy the ride. Remember why you joined and don’t be and old dick head and alienate yourself.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2020 9:00 PM

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PFC Pearson, first congratulations! 2nd having completed basic at age 35 and OCS at 36, 18 years ago, I can tell you it was the best decision I've made. I'm 2 years away from completing my 20 so it can be done! With that as an intro, I weighed in 15 pounds over my max at MEPS, could run 2 miles in 1830 and Just barely passed my situps and pushups (36, 48 respectively) before I shipped to Knox. For me, having played football in high school, I put myself in the mindset of 2 a day and 3 a day practices. You will always be doing something physical. The goal is to build you up not break you. The key is mindset and diet...lots of water and eat what you're given even when 17 year olds are putting sugar on bread and calling cake. With the new PT test preparation will be different but the results if you follow your DS will be the same.....success. By the end, I was 15 pounds under my max, running 15min two miles and easily passing situps and pushups...persevere, that takes a strong will and you'll be fine. As for your career path, being in a CAB myself, I am fairly certain 35 is the max age for pilot training with a waiver, typically it's 30 without a waiver. You really need to confirm with your gaining unit that you will be given a seat a Rucker before you develop that expectation. I know the Guard is hurting for pilots but best to check on the age limits.

Last, Good Luck! You'll look back at all the sweat and be proud that you kept up with all those 17 year olds!

Response by SPC LeBron Spain made Feb 27 at 2020 8:02 AM

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.... expect to be the "old man" .... I enlisted at 35 also , gave it 18 years and would still be there if I wasn't so damn old.... damn, I still miss it..... it's going to be the hardest thing you'll ever do , but succeed and the respect you'll receive will humble you...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2020 12:39 PM

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I joined when I was 30. I turned 31 in AIT. Here's what I observed at that age. I suffered from male-pattern baldness starting at age 29. I shaved my head and still do. You aren't allowed to shave your head in BCT. It's a hygiene issue apparently. You get haircuts every other week or so. Obviously, my hair didn't grow the same as the kids so I got a nickname from that and was sometimes called grandpa. Be prepared to get razzed. Grow a thick skin.

You're going to notice immediately that the Drill Sergeants are about your age. Let your ego go. Do what you're told.

Since you're older, you might notice really quickly that the whole thing is a mind game. Play the game by the rules. It is a mind game. Just ride it out. You're likely going to be a bit more disciplined than the kids. Be an example. Also, some of the kids are going to resent you. Deal with it. For me, in the end, I made great friends, but you likely won't see any of those cats from BCT/AIT/OSUT for the rest of your life unless it's in passing or maybe one or two will go with you to your next duty station. The point is, it's a temporary arrangement. Do your best!

I remember on fill-day that I was formed up in the kill zone in our barracks. We'd just gone through all the screaming, briefings, push-ups, etc. Some of the kids were stressed. When we got into the kill zone and I set all my stuff down, my BCGs (glasses) fell off my face for some reason; probably from the sweating. When they hit the ground, they broke. I was in the front rank so both of my Drill Sergeants watched this happen. At least one of them got in my face threatening UCMJ violation of destroying government property. I immediately recognized that they were reaching for words trying to make it a stressful thing. I just nodded it off and carried on.

In short, you'll notice things, but over all, as long as you're in shape and can deal with the mind game, you should be fine. Just do what you're told. Be a good Soldier. I'm a Staff Sergeant now with 15 years in the Reserves. My Army career has been pretty good over all.

Response by 1LT William Armstrong made Feb 27 at 2020 2:11 PM

2020-02-27T14:11:40-05:00

I agree with all the others, RUN and RUN some more. Be in the best physical condition you can .

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2020 2:40 PM

2020-02-27T14:40:11-05:00

Depends on the job really. It’ says posted to UH60 repair so I take it an air winger. Running and pushups is all you need to do. I joined last January at the age of 30 but I’m infantry so it was a tad tougher for basic. You will be sore all the time and take longer to recover but nothing you can’t handle. I went in slightly out of shape so it shouldn’t be hard if you’re in shape. I also attended airborne school and that is nonstop running. No one will look to you for guidance because you’re gonna go with know it all teens so prepare for that. Once you get to your unit that’s where the difference really is. For POG world it must be a nicer place, for me it was a pretty smoke filled time for a few months. I’m in the 82nd so different beast. Just do what you’re told when you’re told, right place right time right uniform. And embrace the suck.

Response by SGT Tal Wick made Feb 27 at 2020 8:50 PM

2020-02-27T20:50:56-05:00

I was 33 when I started Basic Training, Check your ego at the door, you are no different than any other recruit. Like the others said, Run and run some more. That to me was the biggest challenge. It's a mind game, go with it. Build a relationship with other recruits, treat others as equals. You are all there for the same thing, maybe for different reasons, but the same training. These are people who will learn to lean on each other for support. Offer advice on your experience, but don't force it on others, they will resent you. Listen to their ideas, I learned as much from some 18 year olds as I did from some career soldiers. Remember, It's a couple of months of physical/mental building followed by school with physical/mental maintenance. Just keep your eye on the finish line, getting to your first unit and starting your new life.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2020 8:18 AM

2020-02-28T08:18:08-05:00

Remember the rules and regulations, for the most part on run days alot of the youngsters can run a 10-13 min 2 miles, if you can't do that don't stress but push yourself

Response by SGT Jon Hunter made Feb 29 at 2020 6:39 AM

2020-02-29T06:39:08-05:00

Don't forget the reason you enlisted. That'll keep you focused when you have nothing left... and the Army has a way of finding that place in every recruit. Then, stay focused on what's in front of you while in training. There is no long term anything if you fail to become proficient at the task at hand. Lastly, do what you're told to the best of your abilities all the time. Do not worry about sleep. Do not entertain the sniffles or cough. Do not consider aches and pains. Be a good soldier. Go all in. Don't do anything half way.

Response by SFC Pat Mattson made Mar 1 at 2020 9:52 AM

2020-03-01T09:52:41-05:00

Practice at being invisible, which will be hard as the geriatric guy. That being said, do your job, don’t be afraid to fail, and get through minute by minute, day to day and week to week then it’s done. Go the the real Army and excel.

Response by PO1 Kevin Dougherty made Mar 1 at 2020 11:31 PM

2020-03-01T23:31:05-05:00

Run Forrest, Run!

Response by CPL Sheila Lewis made Mar 4 at 2020 10:12 AM

2020-03-04T10:12:28-05:00

Early mornings, late nights, little sleep, few comforts. Get in front and stay in front...lead the way. After graduation from Basic Training, You will feel so good; and graduation from AIT, You will feel awesome, and unstoppable.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2020 12:37 PM

2020-04-18T12:37:01-04:00

As far as the Drill Sergeants are concerned, you'll be treated the same as everyone else. The younger trainees might make good natured cracks about your age, but that's OK. Get in shape before you report to Basic, and you'll keep up with them just fine. I too enlisted at 35, and turned 36 in Basic five months later (on the day we had gas chamber training... Happy birthday to me, right?). Remember, enlisting as late in life as we did kind of gives us an advantage in a sense: The wisdom to keep your head down, nose clean, mouth shut, and eyes and ears open!

Response by SP5 Derick Johnsohne made May 15 at 2020 1:35 AM

2020-05-15T01:35:00-04:00

when i enlisted, 3 of us were around 30 . and actually, the dsgts took it easy on us . not to say that it was all a piece of cake .

Response by SPC Ron Salsbury made May 20 at 2020 9:23 AM

2020-05-20T09:23:00-04:00

Aches and pains like you have never experienced, and some real sleepless nights, keep the ice handy! Also it's a head game trying to break the individual down to raise everyone up as a functional team, some will resist, but most will see the light.

Response by MAJ Gregory M. made May 20 at 2020 12:06 PM

2020-05-20T12:06:55-04:00

I went through Sand Hill at Benning in '97, in my 20s. I was one of the oldest in my platoon at that age, they made me a squad leader on Day 1 and I had that job the entire time in Basic. My experience was that while there was a lot of getting in your face and messing with you the first few weeks, if your platoon adapts to following instruction and shows motivation to do what the drill sergeants tell you, the drills shift into focusing on getting you from Point A to Point B for training and making sure you are learning what you need to learn. Everyone's mission, them and you, is to produce trained and ready soldiers. Play the game in the beginning and then focus on getting it done. If you are as physically fit as you can be at the start, that's one less thing to worry about. You don't have time to ____ around, so stay busy and if you're in a leadership role, keep your team busy. Make your bed, polish your boots, study your SMCT. Move with a purpose. Count the weeks going by, not the days. Go to church on Sundays. Adapt to the program and you'll be amazed how much you transform in a short time.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2020 10:21 PM

2020-05-22T22:21:07-04:00

You poor guy. Lol. Remember ARMY STRONG!! You are going to be sore as shit!!! Get your mind right you have a long way to go. But remember after 20 years it’s a great retirement. Sfc Ret. Powell

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 26 at 2020 10:40 AM

2020-05-26T10:40:03-04:00

I joined when I was 33 and it was hard and physically challenging but very rewarding. I did 20 years and never once did I quit or whine. I just did exactly what I was told and listen and learned. Its rough but rewarding.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2020 1:48 PM

2020-05-31T13:48:58-04:00

It can be tough in the sense of mentally dealing with trivial stuff. I enlisted at 36..The main issue was dealing with the theatrics and middle school drama in the open squad bay.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2020 8:49 PM

2020-05-31T20:49:53-04:00

I concur with Captain Durish. After Basic, AIT, and Engineer OCS in 1968, I attended a 3 months class at Aberdeen PG. after class each day I slept 10-12 hours for about a month. Not sure what the attrition rate was for Benning School for Boys, but Belvoir was 50%. 133 started, 66 commissioned. 50 right to Nam. Only post Vietnam did I realize the toll that year 1969 took on me. At 35, best you be in shape already.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2020 9:38 PM

2020-05-31T21:38:06-04:00

Well I completed BCT at Ft. Jackson Graduated 28 May 2020. I am now at Ft. Eustis VA for AIT.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2020 6:16 PM

2020-06-01T18:16:19-04:00

Well my friend, I joined a combat MOS (13B) at 34 so lets talk. You can expect BCT to be easier for you than you are expecting. The Drills wont mess with you as much because you are older and have lived on your own out of the Army. That doesn't mean relax or don't try, it just means the target on your back isn't as big as the 19 year old Dog Food Specialist standing next to you in formation that wont shut up about deploying and getting to shoot people. (true story) That being said I made it a point to smoke those young guys in PT every chance I got. I didn't want to give the Drills any opportunity to single me out or decide I was weak because of my age. All and all I had a good experience. I got smoked, I got yelled at, just like everyone else but I had the wherewithal to take all the training to heart and make the best out of a crappy situation. The young guys will look up to you because of your age and my best advice to you is, Don't let them down.

Response by MSG Gregg Clement made Jun 15 at 2020 11:03 PM

2020-06-15T23:03:24-04:00

I got in late too. Here's my story.
I enlisted at 29. I was 260#.
I got myself down to 185# before MEPS.
FT LWood got me to 155#.
I could max every event but the run.
In 29 more years I had 7 aviaion MOSs.
Medically retired at 59 yrs old (wanted to hit 30) as a MSG.
It was a great life.
Go for it!

Response by SGT Donald Croswhite made Jun 16 at 2020 2:53 AM

2020-06-16T02:53:10-04:00

To be called "old man" your whole career.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2020 5:31 PM

2020-06-16T17:31:53-04:00

I'm a 39 yr old spc 15N. I enlisted at 33. Most of the info is correct. However, you will be picked on by the younger guys, my advise. Bring.a.hammer. take the kids to school. Don't hold back on the insults, crass language and general meaness. Show them that old men can kick their young brats ass any day of the week. This military isn't theirs...its ours damn it......now where's my ibuprofen?

Response by SFC Rodrick Carter made Jun 16 at 2020 10:43 PM

2020-06-16T22:43:51-04:00

Hello Zach,
First off, thank you for enlisting in military service. Second, you have to take care of your body being that you are going to have more stressors; physically and mentally at your age. You have the advantage of life experiences on your side so this should help you with making good sound decisions. I'm going to recommend that you do some research and get some nutritional supplements. I retired after 20 years of service and I did not become a Police Officer until 5 years later. I went through a four month regional training academy and the mental stress wasn't that bad due to my military experience. The physical stress from smoke sessions and physical training is what truly challenged me. If you want a recommendation for a great company with awesome leadership and top notch affordable products I can provide one. Overall, continue to prepare f your mind and body for the challenges that await you. You can visit my website at 12715.Anovite .com when you have time. Good luck and God bless!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 3 at 2020 7:30 PM

2020-07-03T19:30:31-04:00

You can expect to be a Soldier, FFS

Response by SGT(P) Le'a K Billingsley made Jul 15 at 2020 10:36 AM

2020-07-15T10:36:45-04:00

A great career. Start using The Stash App today too. Document everything.

Response by SGT(P) Le'a K Billingsley made Jul 15 at 2020 10:42 AM

2020-07-15T10:42:43-04:00

You're at the perfect age, the body is ready to perk up or fiz out....your choice....get two duffle bags, toss one, fetch, while carrying the other...do it for 20 minutes after a normal workout, and to will know which is better....fiz out or perk up..... you're gonna perk up.....keep thriving HOOAH!!

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Jul 20 at 2020 9:55 AM

2020-07-20T09:55:23-04:00

I was wondering why you had a photo in your uniform and the rank of PFC? So you do have Boot Camp completed. Then you are on your way young Soldier (or older Soldier) Age makes no difference...good luck!
Hooah!

Response by 1SG Michael Anthony Gonzales made Jul 24 at 2020 7:55 PM

2020-07-24T19:55:49-04:00

If you haven’t started running seriously, I advise you to start YESTERDAY!

Hopefully, you’re a gym rat or at least been lifting weighs at 35.

Ability to run and strength, will keep you alert and ready to “rock & roll” within a second of Drill Sergeants’ commands.

Good Luck. Hooah

Response by 1SG Larry Robertson made Jul 27 at 2020 6:54 PM

2020-07-27T18:54:38-04:00

I reenlisted when I was 38. You better stay on top of your game mentally and physically because it is a young mans game. I did make it to retirement at 56 so good luck.

Response by LCpl John Chau made Aug 9 at 2020 8:56 PM

2020-08-09T20:56:27-04:00

Get ready by seeing a chiropractor, a physical therapist, a massage therapist while you gradually build up strength and endurance in your body to sustain mental and physical punishment. Learn the finer points of CrossFit mobility exercises. Balance your mind and body, so that they won’t break under pressure. Build it up, so it doesn’t crash down at any one point.

Response by MGySgt Rick Tyrrell made Aug 9 at 2020 9:28 PM

2020-08-09T21:28:53-04:00

Nothing but hard times. The spirit of the service will be great!

Response by SSG Russell Busicchia made Aug 10 at 2020 10:53 AM

2020-08-10T10:53:13-04:00

Since I don't know you I'll just give you the advice my retired MSG father gave me. Be prepared for living in hell in basic training. When I found that basic training wasn't that bad I managed to enjoy it, I also gained an advanced promotion out of it. I also agree that if you have time try to get in shape before you go to basic.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 30 at 2020 1:45 AM

2020-08-30T01:45:08-04:00

When I was 36 I hit my peak muscular strength. And my cardio was still really good at that time due to running like crazy in Fort Stewart. At the age of 40 it starts to creep up on you.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2020 12:51 PM

2020-11-23T12:51:59-05:00

Well I completed training graduated October 2nd. I was gonna Ben soldier leader of the cycle at basic and distinguished honor graduate at AIT. I appreciate all the info and tips I was provided. Thank you everyone.