PV2 Private RallyPoint Member 2346596 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> 2017-02-16T12:58:12-05:00 PV2 Private RallyPoint Member 2346596

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2017-02-16T12:58:12-05:00 2017-02-16T12:58:12-05:00 SFC(P) Jonathan P. 2346616

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you trying to go to a high speed unit it is much easier to get released from your current contract prior to going to BCT. Before doing so make sure you check with the AD recruiters and that you meet the qualifications. Best of luck on your endeavors!

2017-02-16T13:03:33-05:00 2017-02-16T13:03:33-05:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 2346620

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Either way, at some point you will have to go to Basic. But, talk with 20th and your Recruiters to see what options are available.

2017-02-16T13:03:51-05:00 2017-02-16T13:03:51-05:00 Sgt Private RallyPoint Member 2346640

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1107166" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1107166-11b-infantryman">PV2 Private RallyPoint Member</a> Best of luck in basic. Listen, observe, learn, maximum effort.

2017-02-16T13:07:30-05:00 2017-02-16T13:07:30-05:00 SGM Erik Marquez 2346747

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br />I think there is some confusion on your part..<br /><br />Airborne Ranger= Is a thing<br />20th SF= is a thing, but not &quot;Airborne Ranger&quot; which is what you said you wanted.... Though many SM that are long tabbed SF, have already attended Airborne and Ranger school, and more then a few Q course grads in an SF unit go to Ranger school<br />&quot;but im ARNG&quot;= Has nothing do to with being a Airborne Ranger, other then many fewer opportunities to get a school slot from your unit. ARNG &amp; Airborne Ranger can both happen, if your unit has a slot and / or is willing to pay your way. Id have to guess though, I doubt there are many if any SQI V coded line numbers (assignment slots) for a enlisted non NCO.<br /><br />Confused more yet????<br />LOL<br />Start here...<br />Is your goal to be in an SF unit?<br />Tabbed Airborne Ranger, but not in a Ranger unit?<br />Tabbed Airborne Ranger and in an the Ranger Regiment?<br />Something else?

2017-02-16T13:27:17-05:00 2017-02-16T13:27:17-05:00 SGT Dave Tracy 2346901

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Alright, besides me who here read the 1st part of his post &quot;I want to be an Airborne Ranger...&quot;, and in your mind continued with &quot;livin&#39; the life of sex and danger&quot; (or some variant thereof)?<br /> <br />As for your situation, getting high-speed school slots is often tough if not already in your contract (18X enlistment option, Airborne school, etc), whether Active Duty or not. My most profound Army regret is not getting Airborne in my contract, because getting a school slot when it wasn&#39;t in my contract put me as a mech Infantry guy near the back of the priority list. Even if your get it in your contract, it may take a while to go; a couple guys from my Infantry OSUT platoon had to wait in Airborne hold for months! Slots come at a premium, and I never could snag one.<br /> <br />Good luck.

2017-02-16T14:10:47-05:00 2017-02-16T14:10:47-05:00 SSG Carlos Garcia 2346929

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>First and outmost, you need to be E-4 promotable with at least 3 years in active duty to be accepted for the Q Course. The very same goes with U.S. Army Rangers not to mention that you also have to qualify at airborne school.

2017-02-16T14:20:11-05:00 2017-02-16T14:20:11-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 2346985

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Airborne slots are usually difficult to get in the NG. If you&#39;re in a NG Infantry unit your chances are much better but it&#39;s still difficult. NG Infantry units also often get seats in Ranger school too. If you&#39;re saying you want to go to a Ranger Bat, you&#39;d have to be AD. <br /><br />1-143 Inf in RI/TX/AK is the only Airborne Infantry that I&#39;m aware of in the Guard. The seats would probably be very easy to get in those units. Getting into 20th Group right off the street can be tricky. I had a friend that managed to get their approval but he is an exceptional physical specimen and also had a 4 year degree. That&#39;s not to say it&#39;s impossible. If you haven&#39;t shipped for BCT yet, your best bet might be to try and get out of your current contract and go for another one for either 18X or that has guarantees for Airborne and Ranger.

2017-02-16T14:43:04-05:00 2017-02-16T14:43:04-05:00 PV2 Private RallyPoint Member 2347143

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wrote Airborne Ranger, and I didn&#39;t mean to say Airborne Ranger, but it seems like I can&#39;t edit it out. I&#39;m sorry for any confusion if there was any.

2017-02-16T15:39:05-05:00 2017-02-16T15:39:05-05:00 MSG Brad Sand 2347261

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you wanted to be an Airborne Ranger, why didn&#39;t you enlist into the Army under Option 40?<br /><br /><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1107166" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1107166-11b-infantryman">PV2 Private RallyPoint Member</a> there is a missing detail in your question BUT you may want to make it through IADT before jumping off the deep end and going to a Ranger Battalion?

2017-02-16T16:15:36-05:00 2017-02-16T16:15:36-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 2347281

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you can find a Title 10/32 Assignment at Ft. Benning/Army National Guard--Warrior Training Center (WTC) you might get the option/opportunity to start the pipeline to all the fun, but all so grueling &quot;High-Speed-Low-Drag&quot; schools that can eventually be the catalyst to a rewarding SF Training/Career in the ARNG (e.g. Airborne School, Sr. Parachutist/ Jumpmaster Course, Air Assault Course, Pathfinder Course, Pre-Ranger Course--subsequently then to Ranger School, Combative Level 4 Course, Master-Gunner Course, SCUBA-Combat Dive School, and etc.).<br /><br />This would require an approval by your organic unit (home unit) to sponsor you (approved from NGB) and be put on a year long active duty orders (duration can be extended from year-to-year; up to three years). This could potentially lead to SFAS &amp; SF Unit due to your training.

2017-02-16T16:21:11-05:00 2017-02-16T16:21:11-05:00 SGT William Howell 2347341

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just a few thoughts. First you have as good of a chance of getting into Ranger school as Astronaut school in the Guard. They have scaled back the school and there are very few slots for Guard guys unless you know somebody that can pull strings. My old armory had MP&#39;s and 20th Group commo in the same building and I picked up a few things, but am no means do I know much about it. My suggestions are just what I would do and there may be some people that know better than me for sure. First, get through Basic and AIT. Once that is done find the closest 20th Group armory and go visit them. Let them know you are thinking about becoming a snake eater and see if they have any positions for a support role with them. If they do you will have to put a request for transfer in to change units and then the powers to be will decide if they will let you go. You may have to change MOS, but most Guard guys have several. It will be easier for you if you have a better understanding of what is required if you get it from the guys that have been there and done that. At some point, I would suggest you get a study guide for SF. There are a ton of test you have to take and pass before you will even be looked at. I have heard the language test has a high failure rate and is what stops most people. I had a friend that failed the language test twice and he studied the guide for months. He was super smart. He said it was no joke. <br /><br />Now in saying all that, why would you not want to become an MP? We are just like SF, but we also get to write tickets for 3mph over the speed limit and get to say things like, &quot;Don&#39;t mistake your rank for my authority.&quot; Or when you walk into the DFAC and you hear &quot;Fucking MPs&quot; you know it is because of jealousy from guys that are just regular army who only get to do things like drive tanks or jump out of airplanes...boring. MP is where the cool factor really is. We are so cool the Army gave us our own our own velcro patches that say &quot;MP&quot; to let everybody know we are the siznat. SF and Rangers just get a tab. Just doing the math....that is only like a 1/4 the size of MP awesomeness. Not everybody gets to be MP cool all the time. Think about it. Just saying. &quot;Death before dismount!&quot;

2017-02-16T16:38:52-05:00 2017-02-16T16:38:52-05:00 CPT Lawrence Cable 2347379

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess my advice at this point would be to see if you can change your contract to include the REP63/18X option. That gets you Airborne before you get to the selection process. I would get very serious about PT if that were my choice, especially running and rucksack marches.

2017-02-16T16:48:11-05:00 2017-02-16T16:48:11-05:00 SFC George Smith 2348097

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>check with the SF Guard Recruiters in your areas... Usually at the Units, company or BN level...<br />What State are you IN, or close to...

2017-02-16T21:10:53-05:00 2017-02-16T21:10:53-05:00 SGT Philip Roncari 2348163

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Having not been,Airborne,Ranger,or Special Forces qualified maybe my response is simply to take the basic steps of being and trying your best in every phase of training from Basic onward ,you&#39;ve read responses on this site with much more insight than I can give,but from my own experiences be very careful for what you wish for( something my Dad told me in 1965) Good luck Brother!

2017-02-16T21:28:12-05:00 2017-02-16T21:28:12-05:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 2360705

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, to start with, if you are under the age of 21, you are ineligible for SFAS. And because you have not yet been to OSUT, as an Infantryman, you could try and gain an 18X contract, which would send you through SFAS immediately after OSUT. So that&#39;s an option for you. If you get Selected, you&#39;ll go to Airborne School, and then the SFQC. However, those slots are few and far between.<br /><br />Option two; go through OSUT, get a good, solid understanding of your job, see if you can reenlist under the Active component, spend some time on the Line and determine if it is a lifestyle you would like to do on an upper echelon. Because I can tell you, the ARNG and the AD Infantry are VERY different. And if 20th Group is your goal, my advice to you would be to spend some time on Active Duty prior to trying out for the long tab.<br /><br />And to conclude, understand that the Special Operations way of life is not an easy one. It requires that you be available with almost no notice, and that you be capable of operating on an elite level, both alone and accompanied. It is one of the hardest walks of life in the world, and is not for the faint of heart. If this is your goal, I wish you all the best of luck and success. I will be shooting for an 18D CMF in the coming years, and I look forward to crossing paths with you under the same headgear.

2017-02-21T14:46:12-05:00 2017-02-21T14:46:12-05:00 2017-02-16T12:58:12-05:00