Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
Army Regulations
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The problem here isn't that a Soldier is being asked to do PT one day with minimal sleep. The problem is that the Soldier is being consistently asked to do PT with minimal sleep. Splitting up sleep shifts negates many of the values of a night of rest, and could cause the Soldier to make medical mistakes.
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To CLAB about it isn’t going to help you. Perhaps you should develop a possible solution to the problem and present it to the 1SG (properly utilizing your support channel) for approval. It should be your plan for your physical training coupled with a risk assessment, or a suggested time that is conducive to those with your schedule. Having said that, your 1SG isn’t being mean, he’s ensuring the physical combat readiness of his soft skilled Soldiers. Perhaps you should suck it up and thank him.
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As I see it you have 2 options. 1 - Attend the 0530 formation and catch your sleep when you can. 2 - Ask if another formation can be held. Since the shift is 16 - 0000 other soldiers must also be affected. Remember, this is the Army.
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Back in the day we would drink all weekend and roll out for Monday Morning PT in our Banana Suit PT uniforms and and be sent back in the B's in Germany to get our MOPP Gear for MOPP 4 PT. This was late 80's Germany, so we prepped for war constantly. if you couldn't go from the club to MOPP 4 and run you were gonna be Dead if the balloon went up. The Soviet Liaison Missions were following our convoys, the girls at the clubs either wanted an ID card and a ring, or Intel on your unit.
4 hrs sleep downrange used to be a dream.
4 hrs sleep downrange used to be a dream.
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Question: How is working in a hospital, etc. different from getting 2-4 hours sleep in the rain and mud, then handling weapons and explosives? Just a thought.
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Honestly I say suck it up and be there with your best attitude. That is what gets you noticed and the best attitude brings huge rewards (special assignments and duties). It won't last forever and I'm betting as a junior enlisted you are pretty young, so you can handle it (didn't we used to party all night and work the next day?) LOL, so you will get through this.
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