Posted on Oct 13, 2015
I am currently in an MPI position and with no credentials. Can the commander write a memo for me so I can do MPI duties?
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I am currently in an MPI position and with no credentials, my school is not until March. Is there anything I can do in the mean time? Can the commander write a memo for me so I can do MPI duties? Has anybody faced this kind of issue I need help…
Benish
Benish
Posted 10 y ago
Responses: 23
I know in the Navy the CO can, but usually you will be in a CID billet and will for FLW in route, then get what we call an Naval Enlisted Classifier (NEC 2002) or an identifier in the Army. Used be before the PSD course was established (NEC 2009), you also were the PSD overseas for the CO or other HVIs.
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SCPO Victor Glaviano
That's go to FLW... Used to be Ft McClellan, our basic course was also there and Lakehurst, NJ before they consolidated post GW I.
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I spent 6 months in MPI waiting to go to school. You have to be V5 to have creds and work cases solo. You can assist other MPI on cases and learn. Other than that, you're going to be the additional duty guy. (Evidence room, AWOL, Civilian police liaison, etc)
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It ha been many years since I worked MPI but last I remember the answer was no, It is required that you go through school first in order to be credentialed. You can OJT if the Commander allows it but you can't get credentials.
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You will not be authorized certain things, such as the issuance of credentials until you are awarded the V5 ASI. As far as evidence custodian goes, that is something that can be delegated to another position 31B20 or higher (311A series included) see 195-5, its not exclusively an MPI duty. Also IAW with 190-30 you won't be authorized a civilian clothing allowance until you're awarded the ASI. The best thing for you to do is determine purview IAW 190-30 and 195-2 Annex B. There is no difference in authority between MPI and a regular patrolman; just expertise and virtue of duty position. You may still wear civilian clothes if it is authorized by the commander or Provost Marshal. Ensure if you're taking over as NCOIC that the case tracker is up to date and that your subordinates aren't spending too much time (case review every week) review with PM every 30 days) on having cases open. Other than that, all other tasks are implied. Also, coordinate with other agencies (CID, FBI, OSI, NCIS etc.) to advance your own training as well as that of your soldiers. Ya know, NCO stuff.
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Back in 1984 When i became a MPI We had no credentials to show for. Just the CID.
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I can't speak for today's current regs but I was in the same position years ago and I was credentialed . Being school trained does not cause you to be credentialed. The school is just like any other service school. You get an additional skill identifier on your MOS. Credentialing is up to the local Provost Marshal. In fact I was working as a credentialed investigator for over a year, then I went to the school enroute to my nest duty station. When I arrived all of the MPI slots were filled and I wound up as a Desk Sgt. I never again worked as a credentialed investigator.
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Continue with your training and OJT. Look into going to any Local and state Investigation courses you can. MPI will only give you a credential, but not make you an investigator.
Your commander has some discretion. Go with what your command says.
Your commander has some discretion. Go with what your command says.
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Lots of information. I was in the same spot before. The commander can write you a letter to carry out official duties. I'd recommend a MFR just to CYA.
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Writing a memo does nothing but tell the commander he is putting somebody in the position. Your orders did that already. You must attend school to be official, but anybody can work the position of investigator as long as the person in charge has credentials. You would just work up under that person.
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As an MP you can investigate, enforce, and uphold all regulations you are allowed to enforce on your base. Mp's can take statements, participate in investigations, (with guidance from CID), and do all kinds of things. You can do just about everything CID can. Just work with them and learn as much as you can until you go to school. Good Luck.
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I was an MPI as an A1C and didn't go to school until I was a SrA. You can perform all the duties but will not be credentialed until after MPI School. Unless the regs state you are not allowed to carry out the assigned duties.
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Continue to soldier on in your current position as an MPI assistant/helper. Learn everything you can about the actual duties and responsibilities of an Military Police Investigator. Take a lot of notes, that will help you when you go to school in March. Read SGT William's comment again, he is right on with his information and guidance. And Good Luck with your future assignment as an MPI Investigator.
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