I am currently submitting my packet WOC school. As usual, I am always worried about PT. My run time is 18 minutes. How hard physically?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:48:22 -0400

I am currently submitting my packet WOC school. As usual, I am always worried about PT. My run time is about 18 minutes. How hard physically is the school? When I went to OCS they had a smoking session every hour for 15 minutes. It was just way too grueling for me. How does WOCS compare? I’m not too worried about anything else. I’m smart enough to pass the school, definitely a team player, always willing to learn, and I’m pretty good in the field.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2020 6:49 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:49:59 -0400

15 minutes was too grueling for you? My friend, it may be time to think about a new career choice

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2020 7:06 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 19:06:26 -0400

It’s 100 percent dependent on your TAC team. They decide what you do for PT in the morning. The rest is really dependent on how well or not so well your class performs. The firdt day is the worst, it lasts hours. I’ve always been in decent shape, I still had my best PT score out of WOCS.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2020 7:25 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 19:25:48 -0400

SSG Pugh, as someone who went through WOCS over age 50 I can tell you what I did. I Prepared. I did not go in worried about my physical fitness because it is completely under my control - and yours. Being physicaly fit will help you manage the stress and make more resilient- in WOCS- and after. As far as your 15 minute smoke sessions in OCS being too grueling, remember that the Army doesn’t want Officers that don’t have mental toughness - they want Officers that will lead under difficult circumstances. My recommendation is change your paradigm from trying to find out how it compares to OCS to working on improving your fitness level.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2020 7:28 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 19:28:34 -0400

I went to WOCS with Mr Serendensky, however I was 43 years old, one of the oldest in our class. The trick is this: never stop trying. It doesn’t matter if you run 18:00 or 15:00 or 11:00. If they see you slacking off, they’ll pay more attention, but if you pass, and you have it all you got, then they’ll see you want to be there. They watched me fall out of several runs, and never said a word to me, because I was always giving 100%.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2020 9:04 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 21:04:15 -0400

As others have said, put out 100% and go in with a good passing apft / acft score. Don't psych yourself out. You will do a ton of running, but it is nothing someone in decent shape can't handle.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2020 2:22 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Jun 2020 02:22:21 -0400

Im not even going to ask what happened to the ocs school, but that may be something the board will consider while going through your packet. The board selection is the hardest part. As for physical, the never quit and give it all you got advice is true but wocs is not a walk in the park. It induces a lot of stress to see how your class can overcome challenges. I dunno how hard the 15 min smoking in ocs is but bag drag is something you should think about if you would make it.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2020 1:36 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:36:03 -0400

There’s a reasonable amount of physical fitness that is required and should be invested in yourself before you decide to submit. In my class, I personally saw several individuals who thought the whole “never quit” tactic was going to save them, but if you’re seriously questioning whether or not you can pass the 6.2 mile ruck march or achieve a decent ACFT score, you should obviously focus on physical preparation. In my opinion, About 10-15% is physical, while the rest is purely a mental and psychological test of your resilience, academic, interpersonal and critical thinking skills. Either way, if I could do it, anyone can.

PS. My best APFT score in 11 years came out of WOCS if that gives you any indication.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2022 3:09 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Oct 2022 15:09:51 -0400

Very hard, but it is doable.