I came down DA Select for recruiting, but Brigade is trying to fence me in for a Korea rotation before my school date. How do I avoid this?
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Currently in korea looking to redeploy before too long. Been on station 7+ years and they already have deleted my orders once in order to retain me for deployment.Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:40:35 -0500I came down DA Select for recruiting, but Brigade is trying to fence me in for a Korea rotation before my school date. How do I avoid this?
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Currently in korea looking to redeploy before too long. Been on station 7+ years and they already have deleted my orders once in order to retain me for deployment.SSG Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 28 Dec 2015 18:40:35 -05002015-12-28T18:40:35-05:00Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2015 6:42 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>DA is gonna get what DA wants. That's what usually happens and it either happens the easy way or the hard way.SFC Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 28 Dec 2015 18:42:33 -05002015-12-28T18:42:33-05:00Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2015 6:44 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was fenced 3BCT 4ID with a BDE position. USAREC is god. If your already select.... Might as well accept the inevitable.... WECOME TO USAREC!! <br /><br />BTW its not atall bad here. Lots of self development oportunities.SSG Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 28 Dec 2015 18:44:35 -05002015-12-28T18:44:35-05:00Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2015 6:45 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends on what you are looking for. If you want to become a recruiting NCO you can advise your branch manager on what is happening. If not, let your unit do what it is that they are planning on doing.CW3 Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 28 Dec 2015 18:45:54 -05002015-12-28T18:45:54-05:00Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2015 6:46 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am also with 1st CAV in Korea. They cannot delete your orders for recruiting. To do so would take actions many echelons above Division.SFC(P) Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 28 Dec 2015 18:46:02 -05002015-12-28T18:46:02-05:00Response by SFC Stephen King made Dec 28 at 2015 6:49 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="446816" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/446816-13b-cannon-crew-member-c-btry-3-16-fa">SSG Private RallyPoint Member</a> USAREC is priority. 3 years DA select recruiter will not be deleted. I was with a SSG had a WO selection still did his recruiting time.SFC Stephen KingMon, 28 Dec 2015 18:49:28 -05002015-12-28T18:49:28-05:00Response by SFC Micheal Ledet made Dec 28 at 2015 7:15 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>USAREC is the mafia, you will be going recruiting lolSFC Micheal LedetMon, 28 Dec 2015 19:15:02 -05002015-12-28T19:15:02-05:00Response by SFC Pete Kain made Dec 28 at 2015 7:49 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Get some popcorn and watch the show, Recruiting always winsSFC Pete KainMon, 28 Dec 2015 19:49:00 -05002015-12-28T19:49:00-05:00Response by SGT James Allen made Dec 28 at 2015 8:42 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Suck it up. What USAREC wants, USAREC gets. Hated it. Loved being in Armor front line units and getting dirty. Hated being behind a desk on a phone or talking to silver spoon fed kids.SGT James AllenMon, 28 Dec 2015 20:42:39 -05002015-12-28T20:42:39-05:00Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2015 9:19 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>BLACKJACK is known for giving soldiers the shaft. Luckily neither BLACKJACK or First Team are bigger than DA.SSG Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 28 Dec 2015 21:19:59 -05002015-12-28T21:19:59-05:00Response by MSG Martin C. made Dec 28 at 2015 10:04 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not sure if have already done a broadening assignment but doing a tour as a Recruiter, DS, AIT PSG, SGL, or instructor is almost a a most for all CMF. The reason all the details above usually yield a higher promotion rate is because they suck by are a necessary evil. <br />Do your time an pay your dues.MSG Martin C.Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:04:07 -05002015-12-28T22:04:07-05:00Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Dec 29 at 2015 12:03 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Check with your branch manager and the USAREC folks and ask them what their posture is. Recruiting Duty is one that DA takes very seriously - like DS - and most likely will happen.MAJ Javier RiveraTue, 29 Dec 2015 12:03:46 -05002015-12-29T12:03:46-05:00Response by SFC William Adamek made Dec 29 at 2015 2:20 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Having been the one that determined how many recruiters were needed, did the screening, and sent out the Recruiting Duty notification... you will most likely be going. <br /><br />And so that everyone else knows how the selection is done (I really don't expect that it has changed much, if any, since I was doing it):<br />1. It is determined (formula and statistically driven)how many recruiters are needed in the upcoming months/years<br />2. Each Branch is given a "mission" to provide a certain amount soldiers<br />3. Each Branch selects who they want to provide (not USAREC)<br />4. Records are screened to insure qualifications and individual notifications sent <br />5. Personal information is received from each candidate and final determinations of qualifications are made<br />6. Candidates attend Army Recruiting Course (ARC)<br /><br />This is a very simplified sequence and it really is a great deal more complicated and intricate but the best thing to know is that your branch is the one that selected you for Recruiting or Drill duty. They know what orders they are taking you off of or the status of your unit before submitting your name.SFC William AdamekTue, 29 Dec 2015 14:20:40 -05002015-12-29T14:20:40-05:00Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2015 2:36 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Had a similar experience with 1st Cav trying to change my PCS orders so that I would have to go to Korea with them. In the end, I got out of it, but not before they made me re-draw my entire CIF record to go to NTC 2 months before I was suppose to report to Fort Campbell. They did the same thing to our company XO. <br /><br />Wouldn't have to be 3rd BDE would it?<br /><br />Good luck.SGT Private RallyPoint MemberTue, 29 Dec 2015 14:36:46 -05002015-12-29T14:36:46-05:00Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2015 3:02 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Most likely the fence well be denied. Recruiting trumps everything including deployment. If you want more information about it, contact your branch manager at HRC and stress your desire to be a recruiter or you can contact the Recruiter and Retention School. Their numbers are at the recruit the recruiter websiteSFC Private RallyPoint MemberTue, 29 Dec 2015 15:02:18 -05002015-12-29T15:02:18-05:00Response by LTC Charles T Dalbec made Dec 30 at 2015 8:13 AM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Use chain of command and then IG if that fails. If necessary write a Presidential or Congressional inquiry.LTC Charles T DalbecWed, 30 Dec 2015 08:13:17 -05002015-12-30T08:13:17-05:00Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 30 at 2015 12:31 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nope. USAREC wins. I was selected for CI, and came down on deployment orders, then got selected for recruiting. Recruiting won...SSG Private RallyPoint MemberWed, 30 Dec 2015 12:31:31 -05002015-12-30T12:31:31-05:00Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2015 12:36 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Normally, DA is the approving authority for any stop movement. Most of these positions such as Recruiter, Drill Sergeant, etc are based off of MOS requirements.CW2 Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 31 Dec 2015 12:36:27 -05002015-12-31T12:36:27-05:00Response by SFC Miguel Lopez made Dec 31 at 2015 12:59 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Once USAREC find someone it gets them. <br />Hope you like detailed recruiter and hope you get your dream sheet location.SFC Miguel LopezThu, 31 Dec 2015 12:59:08 -05002015-12-31T12:59:08-05:00Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 1 at 2016 10:53 AM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Go see your BN CSM ASAP.<br />Even if USAREC wants you and since the BDE is on another "patch chart", DA also recognizes the "rotational BDEs to KOREA" is a brand new paradigm which requires new rules that FORSCOM & HRC have been given permission to stipulate. It hasn't been written yet but rumor has it they are trying..... that being said....go see your BN CSM.<br />I'm certain there are ways to get it accomplished, above the table....but "creatively"CSM Private RallyPoint MemberFri, 01 Jan 2016 10:53:04 -05002016-01-01T10:53:04-05:00Response by SSG Carlos AcostaCastro made Jan 1 at 2016 1:27 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess that only Works on Recruiter, I have a buddy that came up DA Selected for Drill Sergeant School and the CSM made the decision for HRC and got his orders deleted. Just for one (not 2) 4/3 NCOER and he was NCO of the Quarter in his previous unit before arriving to Fort Stewart, he received a 3/3 and a 2/2 after that 4/3. That tells me that he improved since then.SSG Carlos AcostaCastroFri, 01 Jan 2016 13:27:24 -05002016-01-01T13:27:24-05:00Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2016 10:14 AM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I tried my hardest 3 years ago to get out of my DA select to recruiting well I lost and everyone I spoke to said politely I lost. I wish you luck on your recruiting endeavor! Network while you are there and make great connections, stay out of Dallas lol.SSG Private RallyPoint MemberSun, 24 Jan 2016 10:14:21 -05002016-01-24T10:14:21-05:00Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 11 at 2016 4:29 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Recruiting takes priority if I am not mistaken. Call Branch to cut you an order. In the mean time, work hard wherever you are.CPT Private RallyPoint MemberMon, 11 Apr 2016 16:29:38 -04002016-04-11T16:29:38-04:00Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 8 at 2017 8:12 AM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>tell them you want to follow your orders, you need to get promoted!SFC Private RallyPoint MemberSat, 08 Jul 2017 08:12:32 -04002017-07-08T08:12:32-04:002015-12-28T18:40:35-05:00