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I failed a UA for percocets. Going through marital problems ie. caught wife cheating, waiting on divorce to be finalized. Ive already had my 2nd reading the BC hit me with the book although he suspended loss of rank, loss of money, and restrictions so right now it’s just 45 days extra duty. The BC then proceeded to tell me I’m on probation for 180 days and if I mess up then he was release the suspensions and it’ll all come down on me. He never stated in his office that I was still getting kicked out. Although, my ncos told me I still have to complete the chapter process in part it was initiated when I was flagged. What does this mean? LTC gave me 180 days probation, does that mean I’m not getting chaptered out? All my ncos including my 1sg and company recommends me to stay in. Please help, I’m confused and I haven’t heard anything else about getting kicked out.
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It looks like the BC is giving you a second chance to redeem yourself. Make the best of it.
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If you test positive on a urine test, the commander is required to process you for administration separation. The normal procedure would be to refer that soldier to a ASAP rehab program and then the final decision of the flag made after the completion of the program and the recommendation of the counselors and your first line chain of command. If your enlistment will be over before you can complete the program, you can request an extension until you successfully complete it. The commander can remove the flag at that point and allow you to re-enlist. That will be the end of it as long as you don't do that same stupid shit again.
It sounds to me like you CoC doesn't think you are a complete fuckup and are giving you a chance. If they haven't mandated a treatment program, which I would be surprised if they hadn't, I would volunteer to attend one just to show that my head was in the right place. Do the program, do your job and don't let the divorce distract you, which I do know is very hard.
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Thank you sir. For giving me advice as well as not demeaning me In the process. I’m squared away and this is the only trouble I’ve been in, I have no other negative counselings. I actually self enrolled in ASAP instead of waiting to get command reffered. I figured it would look better upon me. Your opinion is much appreciated.
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But at the end of the day it goes up to brigade, is that correct?
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Yes, but I have never seen a Brigade Commander overrule a Bn Co and your CO. The system allows the lower ranks to screw up and not end their careers, so focus on your performance and you should fine. Be aware that all changes at E5 and above.
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Sounds like suspended bust. If they said you have the suspended loss of rank for 180 days then you stay out of trouble for 180 days and you're fine. You would know if you're getting chaptered.

Also - you're going through a divorce and got caught using drugs? That might come up to bite you in the ass with custody. If it hasn't yet you're lucky.

Marital problems are no excuse to use any drugs. You're not the only one to go through them. Good grief - my ex husband is a meth addict who beat me. I never once turned to drugs or alcohol or any of that crap. I wasn't going to risk that especially with my daughter when there was already one addict around. I also wasn't about to risk all this time I've been in the Army over some crap like that. I got rid of him, I handled it. I went and talked to the DVA. I sure hope you learned not to do that shit again and you go find someone to talk to instead or some other outlet to release frustrations - especially when a child is involved.
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1SG (Join to see) - Right? I'm just trying to help because I'm divorced. Luckily my ex husband made it easy for me and didn't show up. But I have heard stories about vindictive exes (both genders) and ugly custody battles.
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what Jerry said. RIght now if you google your name and rallypoint you are going to find this thread. This is public domain. Its access may be controlled; but, anyone can view it.
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Roger, thank you!
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I don’t know how I missed this.
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