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Getting out after 5 months because you sprained your ankle and got depressed doesn't make you a veteran. Further, it's a slap in the face to people who have done amazing things to earn that title. So no, your coworker is not a Veteran. She's a quitter.
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SCPO Norman Hungerford
SCPO Norman Hungerford
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I worked for the /Department of Veterans Affairs and Paralyzed Veterans of America for a total of 16 years. One particular case I remember an 18 year old delayed entery Marine who never severed one day of active duty was awarded 100% severice connected disability. Here is the appoximate occurance that the Courts of Appeals granted him the service connection. The kid enlisted on the delayed entery program just about the time of Deseret Storm. The recruiters decided to have a bivwac for the new recruits over a weekend, but because of the action overseas there were no tents available for the event. The Recruiter in Charge asked if anyone had a tent at home they could get. Under the direction of the recruiter the young man drove home (20 miles) in rual TX to retrieve his tent. On the return trip to the Recruter unit, his vehicle was T-Boned on the drivers side by another who ran a rual stop sign and was paralyzed. After a five year battle, the VA Court of Appeals conceded the young man was under the direction/orders of the Senior Marine Recruiter and therefore entitled to service connection. Otherwise the young man would not have been put in a position to be involved in the collision.
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SFC Donald Thomas
SFC Donald Thomas
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Lmao
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LTC Kenneth McClellan
LTC Kenneth McClellan
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My view: If you raised your hand and put on a uniform, your are a military veteran. Period. Whether or not you are eligible for benefits is another question. Benefits eligiblity depends on the type of Discharge.
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PO1 Phillip Weekley
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I served five years in recruiting and I remember in our recruiting manual stating that you must have completed 180 days of consecutive service to be considered a veteran.
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Cpl Warren DeMartini
Cpl Warren DeMartini
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LCpl Rich Vail - as long as u earn the title which means u made it thru boot. medically discharged in boot ...hell no
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PO3 Thomas Murray
PO3 Thomas Murray
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You must complete Boot Camp or No Vet.
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PO2 Paul Dempsey
PO2 Paul Dempsey
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I agree. I survived 4 years of recruiting duty. 83-87 some tough years to meet district quotas.
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SPC John Richardson
SPC John Richardson
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Federal Regulations defines a veteran as “a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.” Your recruiting manual was obviously referring to something outside this definition.
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SFC George Sease
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I would have to say that the person in question cannot be considered a veteran. 1. Did not finish training (AIT), 2. did not get assigned to a unit that was not a training unit . 3. Was not in a combat zone, 4. More than likely did not receive the National Defense Ribbon, 5. Did not receive a ribbon for the Cold War, 6. Their DD214 should be able to answer some interesting questions-like why did they not stay in.
I would have to say that nope. Sparky does not get to be called a veteran.
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SSG Bob Teachout
SSG Bob Teachout
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There is no time requirement for the medal's issuance, meaning that someone who joins the United States Armed Forces for simply a few days, and then receives an entry level discharge, would technically be entitled to the NDSM; in practice, however, military clerks will not add the NDSM on a DD Form 214 if the service member performed duty for less than 90 days from the completion of their initial entry training. This accounts for the medal's omission from many "uncharacterized" and "entry level" separation documents. Veterans who have this medal so omitted may apply to the military service departments to have the NDSM added to records via a DD Form 215.[7]
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LCDR Michael Pumilia
LCDR Michael Pumilia
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The National Defense Medal requires service during defined times of national conflict. Look up the medal requirements and you will see those periods. Unless you served during one or more of those periods, you are not qualified to wear the medal, period.
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SPC John Richardson
SPC John Richardson
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Federal Regulations defines a veteran as “a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.” Your recruiting manual was obviously referring to something outside this definition. It does not say anything about combat service, or retirement. I served 17 years in the peacetime army am I not a veteran?
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CDR Robert Osburn
CDR Robert Osburn
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Serving in combat has nothing to do with consideration as a veteran. Also if they served during the period the NDSM was awarded they would have received it. There is not a cold war medal or ribbon at least in the USN. I believe they must serve 180 days consecutive to be considered a veteran.
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